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AFAIK they've mostly just added brackets so it is a lot harder to 'capture' vast amounts, though not impossible.

You've pretty much described defibrillation though ;-)

Alcohol Gel is like vodka jelly in this weather

This is uncanny, it's exactly what Mr Carstairs said at my last appraisal!

LOL, just like that Nurserycam crowd who were offering £150 a day to cable the places for them. Still, you could always sub it back to Bob and make an easy £30?

IIRC it is sold as 'home automation'

LOL at this product... https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/sounders-c-36_45/external-sounders-c-36_45_140/pyronix-deltabell-cover-black-p-4685.html 'Backlight will not be visible'...

Isn't it effectively a control-unit less, keypad-less (in the traditional sense) monitored alarm system that is compatible with existing Honeywell RF detectors of various kinds?

Probs still bitter about not being a proper doctor

Keypad and expander addresses are mutually exclusive... It isn't like Menvier M / x5 kit. I expect the system may be assuming that as there is an expander 2, there is also an expander one somewhere and hence offering up zone 9 onwards... Though it shouldn't. You may only have to enter zone 17 to 24 and it should work. But personally I'd change jumper back to 1, keypads to 1 and 2, cold restart, hopefully you won't need to default...

Lol!

Does the 'pir' also have green and yellow lights? Very unlikely for a v8 grade installation but just wondering if its a risko detdctor indicating 'mask'. Also don't some Honeywells do this when they fail self test? Assuming you do mean the pir itself is flashing.

Andddd.... here he is. So... I am guessing you've done a cold restart following fitting? I am guessing you've wired the FSL zones as per the instructions? And I'm guessing it is addressed as 'Expander 1'? I had a funny situation with a 9853 a few years back where you had to use Address 2 due to the on-board zones (if using FSL). I wasn't expecting it, I still though '1' would be an acceptable address...

Seems like a spurious fault to me, when we used to install these, and had around 100 on the books, I had never heard of this fault, assuming it is indeed the case that the other keypad hasn't recently been used when the message appears. Until recently I'd have been reluctant to suggest binning these systems, but assuming it is an 800 rather than the later and better 816, I'd say the time is probably nigh for these. That said in those days it was relatively new & not a potentially 20 year old piece of kit...

You're the one that told me you were offered a load of 30s cheap!

True though esp. in Spain and the like you only ever see metal 'alarmed by Group 4' signs not bells.

What's the story with the bell being on a breakout board?

That sounds about right, even if undocumented. No point reacting straight away as otherwise every single 5 minute power cut and reverting to panel battery, or 20 minutes of high current siren ringing elsewhere causing a voltage drop - could cause a low voltage alarm. I had no end of problems with a similar 'low voltage' feature on a GSM communicator, fitted to a car alarm. It would send the low voltage alarm, not if the car hadn't been used for weeks, which would make sense, but about an hour into each journey, if it was that long... Biazarre. And, no there was no voltage drop! Battery and alternator in A1 condition. Simply turned it off in the end.

ah, two digits was it? Did you buy those 20 Ion30's from Hooky Jamal's?

I would definately be going into the 'equipment' menus and confirming what it can see (or not) after a scan.

Yep I think mine is a 179 III?

Yeah the mains tester is about ten years old, was made in Poland Looks like this but the mains testing, rather than PAT version... https://ssli.ebayimg.com/images/g/ED0AAOSwSv1XkK9x/s-l640.jpg

It is, so am struggling to work out whats wrong. I forget, does the M800 have two 'branches'. Thinking that perhaps non MS-Node only works on Branch 1 or something? Or was it that when using TSX nodes you couldn't have a modern keypad bus wired on the way, it had to come off the node?

Fluke MM's here and an ACT Gold batt tester for us hatchback fly-by-nights, Metrel for mains testing, OK it's not Megger, but at least it's not HungFu5000

Sounds a bit like the old Menvier 500 'enter first 3 digits only of user code plus 1 for Part 1' etc...