PeterJames

saw this in PSI yesterday thought it may be inevitable they have not spent anywhere near as much at ifsec as they used to

It depends on the customer we.re a bit fussy who we take on, so quite happy to give people a price on the phone just to sort the wheat from the chavs

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If it has been like this for a while it may have damaged the charging circuit, what is the voltage on the leads without the battery connected

Yes most bells will work or can be modified to work with this panel, they all come with wiring diagrams. I would suggest if it has not been serviced for a while that the CPU battery is replaced at the same time

And the bell and the keypad and the panel, but if the tamper return on the bell is linked out at the panel the bell can still tamper on self actuating but does not indicate at the RKP

Well ... if the tamper between the bell and the panel had been connected then the keypad would display the tamper fault. If the bell is sounding with no display at the keypad it could be a number of things. Most likely it will be the tamper switch on the bell, but it could be a problem with the wiring if the hold off has a intermittent connection, its unlikely to be the bell box battery or the panel battery.

Witamy na forum, aby nam pomóc musimy wiedzieć, co światła były oświetlone po wyłączeniu alarmu

Not according to Jim today I can forward his email to you if you like

only version 2 apparently and version 3 is out now My reply

Just had this today from an insurer As I understood it LPS1277 is a third party certification scheme not yet compulsory in the UK. We changed a failed RedCare for a WW1 with the same grade, and the insurer is being a pain now. I wouldn't mind, but its a sticky label printer not exactly high end value from robbery point of view the risk is low.

There are a few co's in the UK that think tampers are not important, and we have much stricter rules regards guns and baseball bats

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No, you're not allowed to put them in the toilets in care homes either

I said it was sad what more do you want?

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You obviously haven't seen my back garden on Nov 5th LOL

The insurance company is not responsible for the contractor staying in business, if your trying to claim for non payment they will just point you in the direction of the administrator. If its a case that the contractor screwed a PTZ camera up and it fell off the wall and killed someone that may be a different matter, assuming that the contractor had fully paid their premium. We have just been told by our insurer that we have to keep our employer liability insurance documents for forty years in case an engineer makes a claim on something or other so who knows?

I have a commercial shredder but it would take several days to shred the lot I have, I think im gonna have to get a proper shredding co to do it

From an employers point of view: It depends on the size of the job, If a job is supposed to take 8 hours, sending one man it will take 8 hours, but sending two men it will take 6 hours taking into account travel time ect An engineer costs £37.50 per hour so two engineers cost £65.00 per hour, so sending two chaps to do an 8 hour job would cost £90.00 more, if I was to quote my jobs with an additional £90.00 chances are I would not get it. Whilst sending two chaps to the same job will get the job done slightly quicker it wont necessarily be more efficient either. I could send two chaps to do two jobs that take 8 hours and get two jobs done, but if I send two blokes to one 8 hour job they wont finish it in time to get to the second 8 hour job. Sometimes there are jobs where two men are essential, the ladder needs footing, or on a maintenance where the fire alarm needs resetting while the other chap is testing the smokes. For this we have apprentices, apprentices cost less, but they do less, in most cases they can slow the engineer down as he has to keep stopping to show the apprentice how to screw stuff on the wall. I still think these little chaps can be handy to go and get the tea or the special adjusting tool from the van. On top of this good ones do learn and eventually save time, but they are expensive to begin with, especially when they nail your expensive C&K screw driver under the floorboards and re lay the carpet before you have noticed. This is what I would recommend over sending two skilled chaps to the same job. If the job is a few weeks worth of work then I tend to use a group of subbies on price work and just use my chaps to commission

It would seem that you no longer have to keep hard copies of your VAT invoices https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-70063-electronic-invoicing/vat-notice-70063-electronic-invoicing#introduction So long as you comply with the HMRC's rules. I am about to move premises and I have 10 years worth of invoices in the loft, and the last 6 years of hard copy invoices in filing cabinets downstairs. The expense of having these security shredded by a professional company would be costly. I could burn them on a bomb fire at home but that struck me as a waste, and not very kind to the planet. Any green ideas on how I could recycle them, taking into account they are a data protection risk I asked HMRC about 10 years ago why an electronic copy of an invoice is not acceptable, and they kept telling me that I must keep the last 6 years hard copy. Think how many trees they would have saved if they had said good idea Mr James I will send out a memo to everyone.