Rulland

Come the time that we rely entirely on either a fruit phone or Windoze to do the biz......I'm out...

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Am I missing somat here?.

Copy of a reply from NSI when I questioned certain lack of testing etc in a previous employ. Where an alarm company installs a fused spur, it is important that the electrical safety of the fused spur and the fixed electrical installation supplying the fused spur should have been checked. Thus, the alarm company should carry out the appropriate BS 7671 inspection and tests on the electrical installation of the building. These electrical safety checks include inspecting and testing the main earthing arrangements at the main distribution board of the building, including the main equipotential earth bonding arrangements, inspecting and testing the means for automatic disconnection of supply (fusing or circuit breakers), etc, as well as checking earth loop impedance, and polarity at the fused spur point. (Please note that I am not intending here to give a full list of the inspection and testing needed; simply to say that it will need to include these matters, among other matters). I would suggest that some of the inspections and tests on the electrical installation of the building may be best done before the fused spur is installed, in case there are electrical safety issues to resolve within the building. It is of course necessary to carry out all the necessary electrical safety checks after the fused spur has been installed. Records of these checks would need to be kept and a minor works certificate would need to be issued. Please note that electrical work in dwellings now falls within the scope of Part P of the Building Regulations under which certain work must legally be notified to the relevant local authority. For example, this would apply if the fused spur is being run from a separate way (i.e. as a new circuit) from the distribution board. Yours sincerely Tony Weeks Technical Manager

Tex Ricochet-no affiliation to them, just saying!.

Read them back he needs must, sense no make we agree.

Yup, haven't been able to locate the site for a few days now-404 Not Found.

I always wear decent gloves when putting my hand into 'unknown' voids, I'm suprised anyone does anything less these days, sharps, glass, not funny what some people put somewhere tbh, risk assessments and all that.

So the 'tricky' customer says!, did you default it?. If you did then it's the usual 'you make it work better than it was' scenario, good luck mate, lol.

Yup.

Judging by James's ?, I assume he doesn't know either?, are there actually any rules/regs that aren't totally ambiguous?, or are all we all just pi$$ing in the wind hoping that someone gets their act together finally?.

Sorry Gon but I'd beg to differ, whether it's one second or 10 second fade, it relies on electronics to work, and yes so does a contactor, but surely killing a DJ feeds power full stop negates any issues?, apart from contactor failure, one less step in the loop to rely on?.

If the fire alarm activates it should kill the music etc so that people can hear the alarm surely?, all this fading of the music via the dj stuff is it compliant?, can it fail?, be overridden accidentally or on purpose?, if it's electronically driven, which it must be if it fades, then there is the possibility of a fail to operate. Cut all power to the DJ etc, no ambiguity imo. Just saying.

lol.

Well the bhm has been quite amusing.........

I should have stayed out.doh.

As I recall all Tex's have the ability to lock the engineer code.

I'm out.

It's 'Texecom'. The manuals etc and thus defaulting are in the public domain. Anyone using any1...........well......not an engineer NEway....imho.

Lol A drunk walks into a fish n chip shop, stares at the board for a few minutes and then says 'I'll have pissole and chips please', the lady behind the counter replies with 'sorry sir but that's an 'R', 'ok, I'll have ar$ole and chips then, sorry'.

Yup, assuming current draw is within the limits for the bell output.

Soz Andrew, lol, imho, the more you complicate a system the more chance there is of user error.

Or just go to a 'cheepy' shop and get two shed door alarms, more than suitable as just an audible indicator, without interfering with the alarm system in any way.

As James, most PIR type floodlights I have worked on though are capable of switching up to 1000 watts, so the capacity to run a few lights is available.

I'm bowed now, You know me to well mate.