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  1. well I guess that's me on the naughty step - If you want to be an alarm man get a job with an alarm company. You not going to get any much experience buying tat from ebay, reading books or asking on an alarm themed forum
    5 points
  2. If your looking for a security forum with no pisstaking.... you've made the wrong choice You'll need an eng code to make programming changes to your system, a 1/2 decent alarm monkey could probably move all your devices about with just a customer code
    4 points
  3. If the alarm is in good working order, having the power off a few hours wouldn't cause any issues. It's a common misconception that alarms sound if the mains goes off but that is actually a sign they are unmaintained and faulty. PA would likely activate if connected, so you would need the code before you can silence it. I assume any monitoring would be cancelled at this point but worth checking that too.
    3 points
  4. reading between the lines ? @al-yeti is implying its a piece of shit which belongs in a skip, you cheap skate....
    3 points
  5. Just asking? More than just asking dude ...... You mean like special brew ? Your favourite?
    3 points
  6. I don't like this attitude, condescending to rule out everybody else's opinion as childish because it doesn't align with your opinions. Maybe your not but it comes across that way. Remember most trade contributors have decades of experience screwing boxes of electronics to walls with some effort of providing security and detection. If this is the type of answer you are looking for then it's a different topic of conversation about the industry as a whole, it's a massive bag of worms difficult to put in one post... You contradict yourself in the same post, your not in th
    3 points
  7. Sorry don't get excited, I don't recall working on one either, but just a word of caution I suppose. You have to consider it's a life safety system, its one thing fumbling though programming on intruder worst case in most instances if something was wrong would be a fail to operate and possibly damage or stolen items, not advised but it's not life. It depends on if you are just providing operational checks or if your expected to repair faults and re-commissioning, you would only need Level 2 access for the former. I know you didn't put yourself in this position when sales want to
    3 points
  8. Pick up the phone & call xyz alarms they'll repair it & place it on maintenance contract, oddly the maintained alarms give much less problems than unmaintained alarms ? or lob a battery at it & wing it.....
    3 points
  9. Lol that's worst advice I have heard He has some cables so hybrid is best option Wireless is last option
    3 points
  10. Thanks for letting me know, but any way I wasn't looking for any answer here. Not sure if it's ok to reply to posts with unrelated messages but I will slow my self this time. I'm just very new in this forum and still trying to catch up with the local culture.
    3 points
  11. I'm growing to like the sound of a master blaster in an empty warehouse...
    3 points
  12. dont know it but even the micromax has an input. Id assume it was wired wrong. Once met someone that thought wiring the breakglass to the rte was better than breaking the power as it allowed for programming!!!
    3 points
  13. We get so many of these and always the op is convinced that its the alarm, I remember as an engineer telling a customer over the phone it was a low battery on their smoke, they insisted I come out. £70.00 plus VAT (it was the early 90's) callout later, I found an old smoke detector in a kitchen drawer with the battery still in it. Its like we tell them what it is and the dont believe us
    2 points
  14. I'd suggest you power it all down then find out it's a battery operated bit of junk, nest smoke, other smoke detector then I'd look for alarm clocks birthday cards etc. A powered down alarm is just that.
    2 points
  15. I would not dare issue one to an employee, The odd time I used a telescopic ladder I'm shaking like a shitting dog.... & I've use the #palletofdoom
    2 points
  16. 2 points
  17. shock sensors have a 1st to latch, in these primitive pre mobile phone days... alarm men used to drill a little hole in the cabinet & fit a push to break switch which removed power to the vipers making them reset.... I recommend getting a proper alarm co. to fit a proper alarm
    2 points
  18. agreed but the market demands this doorbell height nickable tech. Ive already been asked to use the alarm to protect it after its nicked. Issue I have is that people think its better than an IAS then the low level 'security system' is stolen before it can upload anything now its the IAS problem to solve. Just have decent cctv that doesnt wait till the perp presses a button (that has to be in easy reach) or just have a door bell. Few nicked the old friedland bell push
    2 points
  19. It is a WW2 filter bunker in Inverness. 2 underground levels and about 50 rooms. It was used 24x7 during WW2, and hardended in the 90s (full NBC double air-locks etc) to allow high heid yins to hide until all the carnage of a nuke strike was over. 2 x 6 cylinder perkins engines driving 3-phase generators INSIDE the building - with their own air supply and separate air-locks (since the air was not filtered to NBC level) to keep the building running after the EMP. Bikes to keep the air circulating in the event of the power and the generators all failing! It served me well durin
    2 points
  20. You could flash the software , but unlikely your going to be able to do it yourself I assume panel was cheap, and what your protecting isn't worth much?
    2 points
  21. Will be ok on a church roof with pallets tho
    2 points
  22. intruder alarms ? I'd advise any self employed electrician to make friends with a tame alarm monkey... aka - let some other mug deal with the hassle Its mostly coloured wires & product knowledge, you can do a b-tec or train with tavcom or similar If your foolish enough to want t be an alarm man just apply for job at the biggest co. you can find,
    2 points
  23. Just want to wish all a happy a prosperous New year.
    2 points
  24. I'm looking forward to covid 20 !
    2 points
  25. System was designed as such it required that sensor , so why would t you get it fixed? It's possible of course to disable any sensor , but at what point would you stop disabling sensors ? Useful is as above , get someone to look at it , but if house , or valuables or yourself is not worth protecting anyway , rip it out and turn it off is probably best (not)
    2 points
  26. I am all for keeping serviceable well maintained systems irrelevant of age. From the pictures I wouldn't be wasting time on that mess and want to be upgrading it. You can't expect a cheap domestic onboard panel to work in a dusty/dirty environment for very long. It also appears to have been lacking any maintenance with one of those batteries in and what's with the two woodscrews holding the transformer in...
    2 points
  27. Panel in the roofspace... F*ck roofspace lol
    2 points
  28. Can't get it to work help?
    2 points
  29. I was doing a job in Netherton in Dudley last year where the homeowner had passed away and the family wanted the building securing. I opened an airing cupboard and there in front of me on top of a blanket was an immaculately preserved WW2 Mills grenade. I had seen enough of them during my time at Warminster to know that this one looked very real. One visit from EOD and one controlled explosion in Netherton Park later confirmed that it was indeed very real and then it was back to work. I was especially careful as to where I worked on anything in that house after that.
    2 points
  30. Hopefully, you're not powering up without a keypad. If you do that, then you cannot use the correct process to power down (menu 51.17-power off) and wait until the keypad shows 'Safe to power off'. With Flex, if you just pull the power, you have a small chance that you will corrupt the flash filesystem, leaving the panel bricked.
    2 points
  31. the self employed aerial man, appears to be leading supplier of cctv wiring cable tied to fall pipes
    2 points
  32. Professional Lol. Modern Micromark.
    2 points
  33. TADB is easy.... What's hard is trying to think why he wants to keep an optima +2
    2 points
  34. A speaker is a speaker, ie needs a speaker signal. A sounder needs switched voltage (in our case 12v) to sound.
    2 points
  35. I think we would have to agree to disagree Note also that the basis of this thread is to help the original poster. All I am saying is "do be careful" So you may be right that it is "not true" under certain circumstances, with certain insurers and with certain polices, however the time to find out I am right is not after a claim is refused So I repeat: "do be careful"
    2 points
  36. Wiring multiple devices gives 1k all closed and 2k,3k,4k,5k for various states of open. However, if possible, only add one detector per zone as it's not good practice to combine detectors on the same zone - root causing problem detectors becomes more complex. The push to set is a single operation. After you have pushed once, the circuit is ignored - you can press again and it will do nothing. It certainly will not unset the system in the way a keyswitch type zone would.
    2 points
  37. Intruder would be program, walk test, and check that items are installed to the specification and properly. If monitored, set up monitoring and test with ARC. Meter readings would be each circuit resistance, quiescent current consumption, battery current, current consumption in alarm, and calculate that the battery is an adequate size. Do the same with any PSU's. Check the bell voltage and that the holdoff is working (for longer than 10 seconds, in case the engineer has left the engineers link on the bell) charging current to the bell. If there is signalling equipment check its earthed, if it
    2 points
  38. Commissioning is programming, testing, meter readings, paperwork, and handing over, but for smaller companies it sometimes means 2nd fix as well.
    2 points
  39. An Accenta is a budget system so you get what you pay for. This is irrelevant to the advice for having the system serviced. If you don't have some technical knowledge you are not going to be able to locate the tamper in the first place, the tamper fault could be any component in the system. While your fix may work, possibly better than the original design, it looks pants. There is no way you can justify this type of fix for a paying customer. Any installer would rip the panel out and fit something decent if it was there own system.
    2 points
  40. What tat have you purchased that does not have a cut off timer ?
    2 points
  41. I remember being on call (a few years ago now )for A N other co, and getting a call from the operator someone trying to reverse call, I refused (as I was not the bill payer) I then get a call direct from a chap pissed that I refused his reverse charge call, I explained that I am not the bill payer and that I was not authorised to make charged calls. He then went on to tell me that my alarm was ringing, so i went to my keypad and then outside and said, "no its not" he said yes it is listen I could hear a faint ewd in the background. I said thats not my alarm? he said its got your number on it.
    2 points
  42. Are you sure it’s not just asking for grade 4 signing?
    2 points
  43. sooner or later you will discover cheap cider, and fulfil your full potential of spending days in the park shouting at pigeons...
    2 points
  44. you want the same sized screw driver you'd use on connections inside a fused spur you don't need crimps or anything to terminate resistor or wires* into these PA's (*or iD biscuits) when put the conductor onto the alarms cable, are you cutting a bare bit of 15mm ish with bit of insulation on the end & giving it a twist ? if it was going in a pir you'd cut the end & shove it in.... if going around a screw you'd twist it around & cut the excess off when the screw is tight its pointless looking at the panel readings there only a guide,
    2 points
  45. Id say every 5 years is fine. Better to replace before panels report it to prevent damage but modern panels seem to do better with failed battery's than the old dumb stuff
    2 points
  46. Can't say I have ever had any issues with leaf tampers other than the fact they are easier to smash the lid off on JB's, relying on the one central screw. The more common issue I see are with these type are wiring not wrapped around the screw correctly or snapped or loose resistor lags making intermittent contact It's not mandatory to have switches but most have gone that way as it's easier to manufacture a break out back tamper. You also have the benefit of not seeing the faults above. I also wonder what brand and did you find any evidence to suggest it was the leaf at fault?
    2 points
  47. If you've got an old A083-00-01 module in that panel, it can cause the panel to reboot if there are network issues. Try syn-flooding the panel network port... Quite a bad bug, especially with a Dimension, as the older E080-4 has the same issue... The A083-00-02, A083-00-10, E080-8 and E080-10 don't suffer from the issue. Also, with more recent firmware on the Flex, you can suppress any comm's issues in menu 51. If you use SelfMon or another ARC, you can leave the path check to them, rather than have the panel beeping all night. I don't believe that Honeywell's serve
    2 points
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