as opposed to showing the world it isnt set?

It always astounds me how people think the security industry doesn't know anything. Many want the bells to show armed status etc without think its a green light for non green light people 

However the next non approved or meeting any EN or BS product will be the best thing ever, till a ring doorbell is nicked

11 hours ago, james.wilson said:

It always astounds me how people think the security industry doesn't know anything. Many want the bells to show armed status etc without think its a green light for non green light people 

However the next non approved or meeting any EN or BS product will be the best thing ever, till a ring doorbell is nicked

If only people understood the thought that has gone into the british security industry that has made it what it is today. Its no wonder that every man and his dog thinks that he can set himself up as a professional CCTV installer, the pictures look great but the important part, the recordings are useless 

18 hours ago, backofthenet said:

on a side note I didn't realise with these bell boxes that the Left and Right LED's alternate slow flash when in operation even if alarm not set - which is a good feature.  

 

lol missed this,

 

the comfort led's on an external sounder  are not really a new thing, the earlist I can recall fitting is a CQR Ultima 1994 is ?

18 hours ago, backofthenet said:

 

 

on a side note I didn't realise with these bell boxes that the Left and Right LED's alternate slow flash when in operation even if alarm not set - which is a good feature.  

Just means alarm was knackered well before you decided to look at it, and walking around not realising many bells have comfort lights 

 

You do know what your doing right?

Edited March 29, 20215 yr by al-yeti

2 hours ago, MrHappy said:

 

lol missed this,

 

the comfort led's on an external sounder  are not really a new thing, the earlist I can recall fitting is a CQR Ultima 1994 is ?

Ha ha - the two old 1994 external sounders i have just thrown away at the tip did'nt have this feature so thought i was moving into the 21st century.

2 hours ago, al-yeti said:

Just means alarm was knackered well before you decided to look at it, and walking around not realising many bells have comfort lights 

 

You do know what your doing right?

Not really (know what i am doing) but have learnt a ,lot with the help of you Guy's - now have modern working bell boxes.

 

Just put the control panel through all it's tests in engineer mode

 

1. External bell - Pass

2. External strobe - Pass

3. Internal low volume bell on control panel - pass 

4. Internal high volume bell on control panel - pass

5. Walk test - zones - fail - Zone 4 causing issues - I think next thing for the same of £10 or so is to change all the surface mount magnetic door contacts - 4 in all - as they look a bit 1994!

 

ref point 5 - the alarm won't arm itself either at the moment - when entering code alarm gives a low beep followed by 3 high pitched beeps but does'nt stop so not activating.  Sometimes say zone 4 is at fault but if i slam the door / tap the surface mount contact on the door the light for zone f4 goes out.

It's alright replacing components like for like but often if the systems been in for a while and not checked over by someone knowledgable the system design would need assessment.

On 29/03/2021 at 17:24, sixwheeledbeast said:

It's alright replacing components like for like but often if the systems been in for a while and not checked over by someone knowledgable the system design would need assessment.

Agreed - I wasted my money in a way on the surface mounts in a way - although only £7.50 - as I now have everything working including an alarm that arms and goes off during an intruder event.

 

as an enthusiastic amateur I'm delighted to say the least.  

 

Two final issues I had 

 

1. The alarm would not arm itself - always had 1 high pitched beep followed by 3 low pitched beep's when entering customer code and this would just go on and on and the alarm would not set - by trial and error this was solved by omitting ZONE 3 when arming - at which point the alarm armed itself after the 30 seconds escape time I had set.

2. To my dismay even though the alarm was armed upon activating a PIR then no outside bells BUT tamper but attack was indicated on control panel - solved by going into engineer mode and taking option 7 - sounder options and toggling "Fire/Outside bells" on.

 

all started working - so a working alarm system

 

finally i went through all the tests in engineer mode and all seems OK

 

One final point - ZONE 3 LED does not light up on the control panel (which is how i guessed what was causing my two final issues) though and i'm wondering if that's a faulty LED bulb? and can they be replaced?

 

 

2 hours ago, backofthenet said:

One final point - ZONE 3 LED does not light up on the control panel (which is how i guessed what was causing my two final issues) though and i'm wondering if that's a faulty LED bulb? and can they be replaced?

 

lol... you didn't no they "bleep" the open circuit no. when setting....

 

if the zone does work when linked out its more than the led which needs replacing