Replace Paragon plus with new version

[Guest 0]

On 11/02/2020 at 19:43, Logan said:

Yes the 46 includes the install, programming and user guide 

 

Your bell box should be compatable  (you can attach a picture if you want so i can verify that it is compatable)

 

I believe the recall was for communication to ARC (alarm receiving centre)

 

Hi Logan 

 

I have attached the bell box picture, I want to use this to start, with the aim of replacing it later in the year. 

 

1 other question, do you need to be an installer to use the home control app on Pyronix? 

[Logan 48]

1 hour ago, Guest said:

Hi Logan 

 

I have attached the bell box picture, I want to use this to start, with the aim of replacing it later in the year. 

 

1 other question, do you need to be an installer to use the home control app on Pyronix? 

Ventcroft primia 2  yes it is compatible but i recommend you replace it as its 20+ years old but its up to you if it still works 

Heres a suitable Replacement

 

You can download the home control app without needing to be a engineer 

Edited February 16 by Logan

[datadiffusion 542]

try Elmdene

[Logan 48]

3 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

try Elmdene

Im not really a fan of new elmdene (since when they moved to Chinese production)

[Guest 0]

56 minutes ago, Logan said:

Ventcroft primia 2  yes it is compatible but i recommend you replace it as its 20+ years old but its up to you if it still works 

Heres a suitable Replacement

 

You can download the home control app without needing to be a engineer 

Thanks Logan, yep was going to replace, just waiting for summer to change.

 

Can you resend the link for a suitable replacement. 

[Logan 48]

16 minutes ago, Guest said:

Thanks Logan, yep was going to replace, just waiting for summer to change.

 

Can you resend the link for a suitable replacement. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Wired-Intruder-Burglar-System/dp/B0195A52C6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=pyronix+deltabell&qid=1581870519&sprefix=pyronix+d&sr=8-1

 

 

[MrHappy 1,425]

2 hours ago, Logan said:

Im not really a fan of new elmdene (since when they moved to Chinese production)

 

The pic is a pre phone day Elmdene Prima

 

Phone day was in 1995,

 

I fail to see why anyone would want to retain a knacked old alarm box even "until the summer"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest 0]

I am looking to upgrade to Euro 46, reviewed all the instructions. However before i start tampering with the old setup. what is the best way to remove old panel without triggering the external siren. I do not have the engineers code and one of the external sirens is difficult to access at this moment

[sixwheeledbeast 405]

Unlikely to be possible if the bell is in full working order.

[al-yeti 467]

1 hour ago, Guest said:

I am looking to upgrade to Euro 46, reviewed all the instructions. However before i start tampering with the old setup. what is the best way to remove old panel without triggering the external siren. I do not have the engineers code and one of the external sirens is difficult to access at this moment

Disconnect mains and leave dangling on the side with battery inside

 

Or just take it off and let it bell for 20mins 

[PeterJames 507]

On 16/02/2020 at 17:47, Logan said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Wired-Intruder-Burglar-System/dp/B0195A52C6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=pyronix+deltabell&qid=1581870519&sprefix=pyronix+d&sr=8-1

 

 

Or you could get the same bell £10 cheaper here https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/sounders-c-36_45/external-sounders-c-36_45_140/pyronix-deltabell-plus-external-sounder-back-plate-blue-p-2867.html

[Guest 0]

Can someone please clarify how to rewire the external sounder from the paragon to the Pyronix, i have attached the diagrams. I am assuming that 

Old Paragon [B+] & [B-] to Pyronix [B+] to [B-] respectively (easy ones) 

Old paragon [BA]  to Pyronix [Bell] 

Old paragon [BT]  to Pyronix [TR]

Old paragon [STB+]  to Pyronix [STB]  

Old paragon [-STB]  to Pyronix [B-]  

[sixwheeledbeast 405]

Sounds right to me