Replace Paragon plus with new version

[Guest 0]

I am looking to replace a Paragon plus alarm with a newer model, currently looking at the Pyronix Euro 46, or Texecom Veritas excel

 

In regards to the Pyronix, is this simple enough to do for DIY installer as there are limited instructions online, can you still use the home control app? or do you need to be a registered installer? On one of the sites there is a product recall, (*currently stock delays due to a software issue recall), therefore should you steer clear from these

 

[datadiffusion 528]

Which sites for which panel?

[Guest 0]

Model - EURO46/S-UK-V10 

Security warehouse website 

https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/security-control-panels-c-36_102/110-input-zone-small-c-36_102_101/pyronix-hyprid-euro-46-v10-panel-p-5449.html 

[datadiffusion 528]

Well, I would probably rather steer clear of a manufacturer who doesn't recall stuff and pretends it's all fine, than one who does.

[Guest 0]

True! just wondering if other sites selling them have had a recall and are selling them with updated software

 

[datadiffusion 528]

Something you're aware of @james.wilson?

[MrHappy 1,351]

I can update firmware....

 

A vertias with an LCD is very different from Euro 46

[Guest 0]

57 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

 

 

57 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

 

Mr Happy,  i assume the Euro 46 is more advanced? however can the Euro 46 be DIY

installed  

[james.wilson 584]

No I'm not ill ask tomorrow

[sixwheeledbeast 384]

If you go Texecom then use a Premier 24 Poly not an Excel

[Logan 48]

20 hours ago, Guest said:

I am looking to replace a Paragon plus alarm with a newer model, currently looking at the Pyronix Euro 46, or Texecom Veritas excel

 

In regards to the Pyronix, is this simple enough to do for DIY installer as there are limited instructions online, can you still use the home control app? or do you need to be a registered installer? On one of the sites there is a product recall, (*currently stock delays due to a software issue recall), therefore should you steer clear from these

 

Is the keypad on the panel or is it a remote keypad version 

[Guest 0]

7 hours ago, Logan said:

Is the keypad on the panel or is it a remote keypad version 

It has the keypad on the panel and there is a remote key pad

[Logan 48]

1 minute ago, Guest said:

It has the keypad on the panel and there is a remote key pad

Do you use the remote keypad the most or the panel keypad the most

[Guest 0]

8 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

If you go Texecom then use a Premier 24 Poly not an Excel

Thanks, i will look into this one. 

5 minutes ago, Logan said:

Do you use the remote keypad the most or the panel keypad the most

We will be using the keypad the most as the panel is hidden

[Logan 48]

47 minutes ago, Guest said:

Thanks, i will look into this one. 

We will be using the keypad the most as the panel is hidden

The excel is probably a better panel for a DIYer as it doesn't use EOL. 

 

A premiere is probably too much for a DIYer  the premier even confuses me and i worked on tons of panels even ones from the 1980s

[MrHappy 1,351]

9 minutes ago, Logan said:

The excel is probably a better panel for a DIYer as it doesn't use EOL. 

 

you can wire a excel, euro or premier eol if desired...

[Logan 48]

7 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

you can wire a excel, euro or premier eol if desired...

For some reason my premere only seems to accept EOL

[al-yeti 430]

1 hour ago, Logan said:

For some reason my premere only seems to accept EOL

Reality you don't know jack , let alone alarms 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Logan said:

i worked on tons of panels even ones from the 1980s

Most of them faulty

[Logan 48]

43 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Reality you don't know jack , let alone alarms 

 

 

 

Most of them faulty

No i still service a metal logic 4

[sixwheeledbeast 384]

13 hours ago, Logan said:

For some reason my premere only seems to accept EOL

It's all in the programming....

[Guest 0]

Does any one know if there should be any issues with using the paragon wiring and external siren with the Pyronix Euro 46 (Note i do not want to use EOL for ease of fitting) . And when you purchase the Pyronix does it come with full instructions as there are limited downloads on the internet 

1 minute ago, Guest said:

Does any one know if there should be any issues with using the paragon wiring and external siren with the Pyronix Euro 46 (Note i do not want to use EOL for ease of fitting) . And when you purchase the Pyronix does it come with full instructions as there are limited downloads on the internet 

I want to use the same PIR's as well. 

[Logan 48]

10 minutes ago, Guest said:

Does any one know if there should be any issues with using the paragon wiring and external siren with the Pyronix Euro 46 (Note i do not want to use EOL for ease of fitting) . And when you purchase the Pyronix does it come with full instructions as there are limited downloads on the internet 

I want to use the same PIR's as well. 

Yes the 46 includes the install, programming and user guide 

 

Your bell box should be compatable  (you can attach a picture if you want so i can verify that it is compatable)

 

I believe the recall was for communication to ARC (alarm receiving centre)

 

Edited February 11 by Logan

[Guest 0]

 

10 minutes ago, Logan said:

Yes the 46 includes the install, programming and user guide 

 

Your bell box should be compatable  (you can attach a picture if you want so i can verify that it is compatable)

 

I believe the recall was for communication to ARC (alarm receiving centre)

 

Thanks for the info, I will get a picture tomorrow. 

 

I assume the recall was just a firmware update in the end?

 

Do you believe the PIR's should be OK? 

 

 

[Logan 48]

11 minutes ago, Guest said:

 

Thanks for the info, I will get a picture tomorrow. 

 

I assume the recall was just a firmware update in the end?

 

Do you believe the PIR's should be OK? 

 

 

Pirs should be fine if you don't plan to use EOL

[james.wilson 584]

You can still use eol just if your replacing then the sensors could probably do with it too