Guest Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I am looking to replace a Paragon plus alarm with a newer model, currently looking at the Pyronix Euro 46, or Texecom Veritas excel In regards to the Pyronix, is this simple enough to do for DIY installer as there are limited instructions online, can you still use the home control app? or do you need to be a registered installer? On one of the sites there is a product recall, (*currently stock delays due to a software issue recall), therefore should you steer clear from these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Which sites for which panel? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 Model - EURO46/S-UK-V10 Security warehouse website https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/security-control-panels-c-36_102/110-input-zone-small-c-36_102_101/pyronix-hyprid-euro-46-v10-panel-p-5449.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Well, I would probably rather steer clear of a manufacturer who doesn't recall stuff and pretends it's all fine, than one who does. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 True! just wondering if other sites selling them have had a recall and are selling them with updated software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Something you're aware of @james.wilson? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I can update firmware.... A vertias with an LCD is very different from Euro 46 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 57 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: 57 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: Mr Happy, i assume the Euro 46 is more advanced? however can the Euro 46 be DIY installed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 No I'm not ill ask tomorrow Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 If you go Texecom then use a Premier 24 Poly not an Excel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Logan said: Is the keypad on the panel or is it a remote keypad version It has the keypad on the panel and there is a remote key pad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: If you go Texecom then use a Premier 24 Poly not an Excel Thanks, i will look into this one. 5 minutes ago, Logan said: Do you use the remote keypad the most or the panel keypad the most We will be using the keypad the most as the panel is hidden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Logan said: The excel is probably a better panel for a DIYer as it doesn't use EOL. you can wire a excel, euro or premier eol if desired... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Logan said: For some reason my premere only seems to accept EOL Reality you don't know jack , let alone alarms 1 hour ago, Logan said: i worked on tons of panels even ones from the 1980s Most of them faulty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Logan said: For some reason my premere only seems to accept EOL It's all in the programming.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 Does any one know if there should be any issues with using the paragon wiring and external siren with the Pyronix Euro 46 (Note i do not want to use EOL for ease of fitting) . And when you purchase the Pyronix does it come with full instructions as there are limited downloads on the internet 1 minute ago, Guest said: Does any one know if there should be any issues with using the paragon wiring and external siren with the Pyronix Euro 46 (Note i do not want to use EOL for ease of fitting) . And when you purchase the Pyronix does it come with full instructions as there are limited downloads on the internet I want to use the same PIR's as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Logan said: Yes the 46 includes the install, programming and user guide Your bell box should be compatable (you can attach a picture if you want so i can verify that it is compatable) I believe the recall was for communication to ARC (alarm receiving centre) Thanks for the info, I will get a picture tomorrow. I assume the recall was just a firmware update in the end? Do you believe the PIR's should be OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 You can still use eol just if your replacing then the sensors could probably do with it too 1 Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 11/02/2020 at 19:43, Logan said: Yes the 46 includes the install, programming and user guide Your bell box should be compatable (you can attach a picture if you want so i can verify that it is compatable) I believe the recall was for communication to ARC (alarm receiving centre) Hi Logan I have attached the bell box picture, I want to use this to start, with the aim of replacing it later in the year. 1 other question, do you need to be an installer to use the home control app on Pyronix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 try Elmdene 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 56 minutes ago, Logan said: Ventcroft primia 2 yes it is compatible but i recommend you replace it as its 20+ years old but its up to you if it still works Heres a suitable Replacement You can download the home control app without needing to be a engineer Thanks Logan, yep was going to replace, just waiting for summer to change. Can you resend the link for a suitable replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Logan said: Im not really a fan of new elmdene (since when they moved to Chinese production) The pic is a pre phone day Elmdene Prima Phone day was in 1995, I fail to see why anyone would want to retain a knacked old alarm box even "until the summer" Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 I am looking to upgrade to Euro 46, reviewed all the instructions. However before i start tampering with the old setup. what is the best way to remove old panel without triggering the external siren. I do not have the engineers code and one of the external sirens is difficult to access at this moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Unlikely to be possible if the bell is in full working order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Guest said: I am looking to upgrade to Euro 46, reviewed all the instructions. However before i start tampering with the old setup. what is the best way to remove old panel without triggering the external siren. I do not have the engineers code and one of the external sirens is difficult to access at this moment Disconnect mains and leave dangling on the side with battery inside Or just take it off and let it bell for 20mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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