Lwillis Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Where do we say NO? Fine and dandy here, most being managers or owners. How about us out there working for a living in the real world? I'm going to go to work tomorrow, bell my boss to FO and I want a cherry picker on every job because the ladders aren't safe. Can't use a pair if snips incase I cut myself. Or enter people houses incase I get a splinter from the cupboard door the panels in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 See you at 10 Am in the Job Centre then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Best of luck you joining goncalls union of ultimate fails? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 You`re correct. Tired myself, wide awake at 4 am, work and work, plus more work. Just took the colours as granted. No worries. To be fair, Alpha Alarms up here used to use the green as pos and the white as neg for some odd reason. Still catches me out on occasion when swapping out a detector! Quote Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Well I could have climbed up the ladders and stepped off them onto the roof, but the window was an easier option. So has nobody here taken any risks in their entire career? I'm not saying id Hanging off some tray and fit a camera but calculated low risk IMO tasks are okay. It's a risky job sometimes and I'm sure we've all done something we probably shouldn't have to get a job done, because it was easier or quicker or cheaper, but I heard something the other day that made me think. Someone in the trade using their own domestic, aluminium steps on a site. He fell off them, broke two ribs and fractured his skull. He was off on statutory sick pay until the HSE investigated and found out about his unauthorised step ladders, upon which he was promptly dismissed for unsafe working practice leading to a serious injury at work! Quote Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 christ, at a previous firm we were issued with a small 3 tred pair of domestic steps, for the house bashing stuff, instead of using the fiberglass ones. id just stand on a chair TBH lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 No worries. To be fair, Alpha Alarms up here used to use the green as pos and the white as neg for some odd reason. Still catches me out on occasion when swapping out a detector! i use red/black for power, but i've seen green white done quit allot, think its a colour consistency preference. i.e. days if 4 core (obviously no G/W) for contacts, 6 core for detectors, so you could maintain the more common 4 core red/black for zone feed out, yellow blue for the zone return on DP systems. today eol means you can feed 3 detectors from an 8 core, commonly brown/orange would be to the furthest device or pab, but maintain green white as power. before anyone shouts and hollers, and gets all snotty, its what i have seen - not what i do. Quote If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 hour for hour recovery time after midnight, out for 3 hours (from leaving house to walking back in) start 3 hours later the following day. i enforce that rule (as shop steward) on Chubb Eastern, after 2 guys within a month fell asleep at the wheel, during a very heavy lightning spell, which back then you knew you would be out all night. i think only 3 systems nocked out by electrical storms since i started, nothing fried to dust, but knocked silly. suspect if this reduction is down to mainly using polly boxes instead of metal - anyone think the same? Quote If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 No worries. To be fair, Alpha Alarms up here used to use the green as pos and the white as neg for some odd reason. Still catches me out on occasion when swapping out a detector! Yes I have had this a couple of times, I really fail to see how Green is a positive colour. For the record Red, White, Yellow and Orange are positive colours. As for using green and white for voltage in the first place, IMO it's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Agreed. We always use red/black for power. Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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