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1 hour ago, Dashnine said:
Thanks but I pretty much have done so, I can see the wiring for the 4 sensors, 01-04 and while system works OK when set it's just setting the internal sounder off when unset. Nothing in the log, other than Installer logging in/out, Sets / unsets etc.
Can't see anything in the installation manual as a default or otherwise that would trigger it to do so, or how to set it not to do so.
Check how the internal sounder is wired ? What connections is it going to?
I assume.leypad.jist shows model and date time with no errors? When unset and sounder activating
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6 hours ago, Grego said:
Regarding the siren and strobe... It's hard to explain, however the RIO is going to be placed in a studio that is separate from our main house. The studio is where my wife manufactures glass jewellery, so we thought extending the new security system by using a RIO made sense. Being a separate building I figured having an independent siren and strobe made sense.
I've run an 8 core cable between the house and studio, and yes agree the siren and strobe should be powered independently. I was advised outside this forum it's best to have a battery backed supply, as if mains fails, the RIO will power off causing tamper. But I figure if the RIO get's power from the panel and the siren/strobe are independently powered it might not be an issue.
Yes that will work
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5 hours ago, Grego said:
Only issue I could see, I had planned on the RIO having a PIR, siren, and strobe directly attached. Those devices connected to the RIO would need to have 12 volts which I am thinking the RIO is unlikely to get from the panel. So I was thinking having a 12 volt UPS style power supply powering the RIO and devices might be a better approach. Only thing, I am unsure what to use to UPS power the RIO.
What siren and strobe
You could use an 8core , keep the power to Rio from the keypad power and the separate power for the strobe and siren
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12 hours ago, Grego said:
PIR Sensors could be model number RK410RQ? They are discontinued.
Open them ....
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2 hours ago, SecJohn said:
Hi
Galaxy dimension. Using RSS Config tool, on a win11 machine. Go to set up the com port in the communications settings and it does not see my coms port... I just get lines in and clicking on the drop down shows no other coms port available. I look in device manager and the USB coms port shows up working okay.
RSS tool Version is 3.62.001.
Anyone else using win 11? Do you have any issues? What USB rs232 lead are you using?
Cheers
Jon
This happened on windows 10 aswell , you need to mess about with drivers and windows settings , I don't really know why it happened to me but flaffed around and got into work in the past
So glad I don't have to use RSS anymore
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16 hours ago, john. said:
Hi. I have a 9448 it is working perfectly all user functions work eg turn chimes on and off it sets, unsets everything good as far as user functions go.
However if I try to get into engineer programing mode by 0, enter and my code it just beeps and nothing happens ie no flashing red leds nothing.
It has had a recent new battery and that test good under load.
I wonder if there is another code sequence I am unaware of I should try or is it new panel time. All help much appreciated. Thanks. John.
Your engineer code is different from what your trying
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38 minutes ago, Grego said:
Have recently begun migrating from a really ancient Hills Reliance R128 Security System to a Honeywell Galaxy Flex FX100+ system. The learning curve so far has been high, but I must admit this site has been an amazing source of information and reference material. Have also been reading the galaxy flex installer manual, but I must admit the easiest way I have found to get up to speed has been the wiring diagrams supplied in this forum.
I think I have most things covered... but I am a little unsure of the most appropriate method for wiring the PIR sensor units. I have included a photo of the existing Hills Reliance panel, but I am thinking it may not be beneficial. I was wondering if a kind person could point me towards a wiring diagram or photo of the standard approach to wiring a PIR sensor to a Flex FX100+ board.
As I said, excellent forum, and thanks for all the information you share.
Thanks, Mark
Well seems seems the panel uses a common and then zone legs
With the flex you can use two wires for power plus and minus , and then two wires for the zone
What pirs are you using , perhaps a picture of those aswell will be helpful,
Did you get a resistor pack with the flex 100? Those may or may not need to be installed in the pir
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54 minutes ago, Bad-Yeti said:
Got it all sorted. Looks like all the advice I got from the supplier was wrong. That the Siren and Strobe are negative switches against the 12v not positive against the common, it damaged the I/O board.
Manual would have been better to use
Board is cheap and available
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8 hours ago, MrHappy said:
there's ya problem....
I'd assume the fuse on the I/O is unmonitored ?
you checked it ??
Enforcer will power the master blaster?
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1 hour ago, PeterJames said:
Its a bit difficult to advise, if you,re brave you can remove the fuse in the spur to the right open the panel and dis the battery. But if there is an external sounder with a battery in it you may be opening a can of worms. That panel was installed pre bell timers so the external sounder could ring indefinitely. If your not so brave call an alarm company to decommission it properly or replace it with something suitable
Weird how some bells will ring for days on there internal battery lol
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5 hours ago, PeterJames said:
who knows what the yellow and blue are for just connect the red and black up to 12VDC and see what happens if nothing happens add the yellow to the 0v if still nothing happens try the blue. I would say it must have come with instructions take a look at them
I didn't think they were 12v cos they run in scb mode and stay lit when power removed from memory , maybe they are lower voltage from bell when 12v is gone from panel
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44 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
ActiveX has been depreciated for years due to security issues but tat CCTV still keeps coming with it.
80% of market ? Meaning manufacturers?
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On 31/07/2023 at 06:46, The Security Network said:
Dear James
Have I done something wrong?
Kind regards
Graham.
Either you did well as your message shows , so probably as he said well done and welcome
Or
You had a link , which was removed , but normally that shows saying link removed
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10 hours ago, Nelboy said:
I have had CCTV on my home for roughly 7 years due to threatening behaviour from my next door neighbour. I am classified as a "vulnerable adult" and live with somebody who has clinical anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts. The behaviour from my neighbour has meant I have had to add-on to the CCTV in a piecemeal manner over the years - initially it was a case that my neighbour didn't like me welding in my own garage and stated he'd "knock my head off" if I did it again, so I fitted up cameras including a PTZ on the front corner of the property *BUT* with no recording facility as the cameras were intended purely as a deterrent. For a few years he made no comments about the CCTV, even during the first covid lockdown which included the weekly Thursday clapping in which we was perfectly fine and talkative. During 2021 he suddenly developed an aversion to the CCTV, he started referring to me as a pedophile for having cameras up and started insiting his children weren't using the back garden due to my cameras (total nonsense), and due to this sudden increase in hostility I had to fit a DVR - due to a very low budget I reached out to contacts and was offered a Dedicated Micros DS2, which I know some folks will laugh at but it has done the job up to now. In order to appease my neighbour I moved the front PTZ away from the front corner of the property so that it could no longer look from the front down the side and towards the rear garages, and in order to still be able to view our side driveway / passage I fitted a static camera above our side porch facing forward to the street - initially this was a fairly old box camera which had no night vision and no privacy zone function (it was only by placing a bit of black tape over the front glass that I could shield off coverage of his side yard), and so I eventually replaced it with a small Vista fixed mini dome; the mini dome has privacy zones set up so that it is not possible to see anybody walking around in the side yard (the camera has no optical zoom applied and the recording is roughly 700x500px so is low resolution). I had my Nikon DS5100 set up on a tripod to act as protection whilst I was fitting the DS2 DVR in case my neighbour started up anything, and I have a video from 2021 where he tried starting up another argument, and in it he states "if you took that camera down ((meaning the front PTZ which was on the corner)) and replaced it with a smaller one I'd be ever so happy and have nothing to complain about" - and this is what I did. At first he was OK with the front PTZ being away from the corner, but after a few weeks elapsed he resumed referring to me as a pedophile, a freak, a wierdo, a pervert, and suchlike - this has included him shouting a phrase equivalent to "go back to where you came from" as he believes we used to live on a council estate (which is incorrect). On one occasion he stood on his back doorstep shouting and bawling at me "MONGEE MONGEE YOU'RE A F*CKING MONGEE", and as I have Autism I deem that to be a hate crime so I told him I'd had enough and would turn on audio recording. In January 2023 I came onto my driveway early one morning and my neighbour sees me from his upstairs hall window, which at that point he was leaving the blinds open 24 hours a day 7 days a week even at night time, so he saw my side security light come on and then sneaks downstairs - he accused me of theft (baseless accusation) and then says to me "you're a frigging mongee and it's only because you've got Aspergers and you're a bit f*cking doolally that nobody does owt about you"; I told him that had all just been recorded and he goes "I don't care, do you want - revenge is sweet and it's coming". That evidence was seen by the police including the audio, and the officer tells him he has committed a hate crime which is a criminal offense but my neighbour gaslighted the officer trying to blame us for his actions.... in the months since then he has directed comments at the side passage camera now he knows it has audio recording, and at the front he has come home in the car with his teenage kids and gone "smile you're on camera, you're on pedo camera", he has continued to refer to me as a "nutcase" and as "the muffin man".
He regularly stands on tiptoes to look over the side fence and onto our property, even trying to see if we're in the back garden (on two previous occasions I have seen him standing as close to our back gate as he can to try and hear what we're talking about in our garden); he will put things in his car and then walk along the public footpath a few steps to take a look down the length of our side passage; and when I started digging footings for a new garden shed at the back of our property he poured concrete into part of those footings which was then followed by taking paving slabs from where he had them stored and placing 6 or 7 of them against my fence so as to prevent me removing the fence to put the new shed in place. When I did start builging the new shed, within 3 hours of me completing the first wall he had kicked down part of it - the next day I had repaired and reinforced it and he kicked it a further 2 times, the last time has caused damage which will cost in excess of £200 to properly repair. The first time he kicked down the wall section I was inside the house and saw it on the CCTV monitor, and I turned on the external speaker and stated "you are being recorded on CCTV, any damage will be reported to police". His claim is that because I had to push away the paving slabs that he'd deliberately put against my fence to cause a nuisance it had broken one of them (two at most, though since then I've had a look from the shed roof and there are additional slabs broken which were not done by me, the breaks eminating from a central point as if to suggest impact by a hammer), though I had contacted police before this of which the officer had stated that because he was causing criminal damage by putting the slabs against our fence we were free to remove them. However, after kicking my shed wall for the 3rd time my CCTV caught my neighbour stating "that guy's gonna pay for his debt if I ever get my hands on him" which I perceive to be a threat of violence against myself.
We have now received a solicitors letter in the post in which our neighbour is using Article 8 of the Human Rights Act to claim our CCTV is illegal (intrusion of privacy etc), and wants all cameras at the front and side of our property removed including the audio recording, claiming the cameras record video "in" his back garden. In the past I have tried to tell my neighbour that his back garden is not recorded and I even offered to take photos of the screen showing the various camera feeds, and he responded "I don't care, I don't wanna know"; and we have had police officers view the footage and have told us there are no laws being broken. The side passage camera has privacy zones in place, and the camera viewing our garage door points downwards so that the cutoff point is at the top of the fence. The microphone for the side passage camera points forward towards the street. Before turning on audio recording I did look at information on the ICO page regarding CCTV audio recording, and this page stated that whilst it is recommended to disable audio recording there are certain circumstances where it is allowed for the purposes of collecting evidence.. I have also recently seen this thread here in which a comment on page 2 suggests recording audio is legal...A house diagonally opposite me has a doorbell camera fitted, and I know these record audio as well as having a wide-angle lens fitted which will be recording the front of our properties including that of my neighbour. Given that am the victim of recurring harassement from my neighbour, which includes threats of violence and verbal hate crime, would this fall into a category in which audio recording would be deemed legitimate? The evidence from my CCTV system is currently with police as part of a live ongoing investigation; as previously with the 'Mongee' incident and previous incidents we had decided not to press charges as we have to still live next door to this person - but since he has now deliberately vandalised our property we have now agreed with police to retrospectively press charges for those offenses, and so at the moment I don't want to move or remove any of the CCTV equipment as I worry it may be deemed as either an admission of wrongdoing or altering evidence on my part (plus obviously I don't want to remove any CCTV equipment anyway given his threating and abusive behaviour towards us)
Keep logging and reporting, not sure I would agree that councils have power to remove cameras though , because probably those that did , didn't pursue what powers they actually have and follow a course of action with them , most people want the problem to go away if that makes sense.
Evidence is crucial , also look up the info on nusciance neighbours I seen people get also done by councils and courts although it takes a long time and patience to log and report log and report , eventually you will hopefully be on winning side
Some people do deserve action against them
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12 hours ago, Naeem ahmed said:
Hi am in the installation menu and in panel options devices
Detectors
Add/del detectors
Something like this?
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12 hours ago, Naeem ahmed said:
Hi am in the installation menu and in panel options devices
Not sure if that is correct menu tho, what's the route you take there ,has to say more than just add....
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6 hours ago, Naeem ahmed said:
Hi am on that screen but can't delete it any idears please I press tick and it went straight to add not delete
Kind regards
Naeem
I can't remember exactly but you need to delete the radio device right ? You sure your in correct menu?
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50 minutes ago, Naeem ahmed said:
Hi I bought a new 1 can you tell me how to add it in
Devices menu add/delete?
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11 minutes ago, Naeem ahmed said:
I tried but still nojoy how do I delete it and add it again please
You sure nothing dropped out of it ? Have a look at the case how it closes the tamper?
Or eBay seconds ?
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16 hours ago, Noyfb2023 said:
Hi, thank you for letting me join the forum.
Been looking around for definitive decommissioning instructions of the Eurocentric CP8L system but so far I’ve come up with mixed responses.
My setup is as follows, CP8L system with keypad, 2 zones, 3 PIR, door sensor and sounder unit outside. The plan is to update to Pyronix 46 with Lan module for app updates/ setting as doing away with the BT landline and using Starlink.
Can I just insert my code to access menu on the keypad to decommission? No idea if installer changer engineer code from 1234 or 5678
Is there a sub menu to disable alarm when I open panel as that will set off the tamper alert to disconnect the internal battery?
Otherwise is my only option to disconnect mains power, open the control box and disconnect the internal battery and hope external alarm sounder has no internal battery.
I have already purchased the Pyronix system (deliver this week) and hoping to use the existing wiring, PIRs, external sounder and door sensor.
Thank you in advance.
As above just take it apart and switch it all off bit by bit , I would start with switching off mains , the disconnect battery, mean while your external bell and perhaps internal bell might being going lunatic stylee , hopefully you already have your ladders setup and ready to smash it to bits if it doesn't play ball
Btw if old panel still works , leave it in place and set up your new system on the bench , set it up in how you want it to generally work and then install it after , unless your confident anyway , you can still rip out old one
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7 hours ago, Mubeen said:
Yes, in my case i have 8 door contacts...and 8 sirens(which i can give external power, since the panel doesnt have enough power to feed).
So whenever any of the door contact opens, corresponding siren should ring.
Yes, i know that flex20 has only 7 outputs maximum possible. So 3 i have already done in the main panel.Its working fine.
But when it came to RIO with address 2, zones i a can monitor, but outputs, i can see any changes even after configuring them.
Also while Testing ON/OFF doesnt work for the RIO Outputs.
What are rio you fit ? Picture ?
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22 hours ago, Sam Hayes said:
Hi Al-Yeti
Thank you for your quick response. I assume they must have trade support via Orisec too. He did speak to his team regarding the setup but I will ask if they can seek Orisec support. It's just that I assumed that that it may not be supported as it is no longer current.
However as you suggested, I will ask the engineer for this approach.
Thank you.
All products will have some kind of support from the installer , unless the panel is being blocked from services for some reason but this is highly unlikely, I see really old panels still connected to servers various models in different manufacturers ranges , it's not within there interest to disconnect them
However if it's a free app service then maybe an old version panel you would knock if it and don't care, but orisec haven't grown big enough do that yet I would have thought?
Anyways get installer to get support if it works on WiFi it should work on lan
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8 hours ago, Sam Hayes said:
Hi All
I am seeking some help from those experienced with Orisec alarms. I am hoping that this is a straightforward setup.
We have a Orisec CP25, which i understand is now no longer supported. We have been using the alarm connected via Wifi to our home network. However it has connectivity issues intermittently and I have to keep retrying on the mobile app and eventually I get through. To avoid this, I managed to get a Ethernet board (Orisec Ethernet Module P0009-EB-00-02 00 IPM0000105) that sits on top of the existing Orisec ZX-5C Plug in board. I had an installer come in to set it up, which he did and he updated the static IP address, Subnet Mask, etc. on the system with other details. He didn't complete the port details, which I assume was optional. We did successfully see it on the network with it's own IP address as expected. We disconnected from the wi-fi to test it. However it wasn't getting connected to via the app. I assumed that anything further would be automatically setup.
Would anyone know if there are any additional steps or permissions to allow it any differently to the Wifi connection. If anyone can advise here, then that will be appreciated and I can relay the same to the installer when he is next due.
Regards
Why can't he just get orisec to help him? They have trade support, that seems best to me as you haven't dropped him
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3 hours ago, MrHappy said:
If I had the £ I'd like a one of these-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204373271215?hash=item2f9598a2af:g:mUkAAOSwsLxkkfaP
but in yellow
this is interesting not my thing -
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204373293808?hash=item2f9598faf0:g:fyYAAOSwqIFkkf5r
looking at the other items the seller appears to be alarm trade, the only thing fast & Italian I've owned was a Scudo Van !
Delta turbo is the one , I passed on a few years ago, and see the prices now.............
Scantronic 9651 Internal Sounder when Unset
in !!..DIY Installers..!!
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Yes it was a long shot I was thinking maybe internal siren on an output changed from something