I think Pete is right its the little things that make the difference between Johnny Average and a decent installer, I was lucky and, the thing is (and this is why I LOL at the whole 'part time ambo driver' slur)

is that for many years, long before I knew anything about ambulances other than you can help yourself to cool drugs and use the blue lights to get between McDonalds branches

getting free coffee in the lonely hours between massive car crash jobs, I spent years post C+G exams as a contractor* for a very decent, well respected, do-it-by-the-book firm and

learnt just as much from that as on my own, before then, sure I had passed my exams and did rewire a few houses, but stuff you learn on the job like doing conduit neatly and properly, MICC termination,

the difference between scruffy junction boxes and doing it right, you don't get taught that at college, and other more complex stuff, I don't know like all the peculiar rules around

earthing at special locations that kind of thing. Of course, follow the wrong firm and you'll likely pick up really bad habits, but I was lucky, without that, yes I'd probably convince myself I was as good

as anyone else, but I wouldn't really be in the position to tell. After all, if I'd only seen the shiite work we used to encounter without having done it properly myself, I'd probably just assume the shiite was normal!

 

*I should say a contractor with only about 5-6 people on the books, 3 of them directly employed, so we often worked together as a team so that made all the difference for picking stuff up...

Edited December 16, 20196 yr by datadiffusion

Oh I agree ref training etc, but I thought it was all mains in the conduit? 

1 hour ago, Logan said:

ALSO KEEP IN MIND THIS IS ONLY FOR FUN

 

No such thing when you're playing with 240V TBF, temporary, maybe, but a lashup is a lashup - it only takes one fire or one electrocution.

 

1 hour ago, Logan said:

 I dont think the system would even be compliment as im using the old colour code cable

 

Perhaps not but it could at least be safe. IIRC there is no stipulation for core colours on 24V (or any other SELV) fire circuits, someone tell me I'm wrong mind  

Edited December 16, 20196 yr by datadiffusion

2 hours ago, Logan said:

It is. 

 

I honesty wouldn't worry about it... 

 

You could got to a proper co. & still get a "proper" fire alarm

 

 

 

They're not expensive new.

1 hour ago, datadiffusion said:

 

No such thing when you're playing with 240V TBF, temporary, maybe, but a lashup is a lashup - it only takes one fire or one electrocution.

 

 

Perhaps not but it could at least be safe. IIRC there is no stipulation for core colours on 24V (or any other SELV) fire circuits, someone tell me I'm wrong mind  

How often you find a loose neutral? Weird init