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So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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18 minutes ago, Logan said:

??? DataDiffusion why do you confuse me so much 

 

That's my day job.

 

4 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

I've had a few customers asking for robin b'astard ?

 

I guess you do what you can for them?

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So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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5 hours ago, Logan said:

Whos that?

 

Im getting a fire alarm system set up in my shed 

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I cant believe that nobody has mentioned that the mains is A in flex and B run in the same containment as the low voltage. 

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1 minute ago, Logan said:

Its info@securityalarmservices.co.uk

Its 230 volt.  The sounder is a 230 volt roshni 

What about the call point?

 

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That showed you so-called expert!

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So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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Just now, Logan said:

Its suitable for mains. (Says on back)  faceplate of call point is for a led model

Me?

So is the whole system mains?

Even so, flex out the back of a socket is still very poor 

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Hold up, is the detector mains as well then?


So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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So its  completely mains, so why have you used Fire tough cable to everything apart from the mains?

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1 hour ago, PeterJames said:

So its  completely mains, so why have you used Fire tough cable to everything apart from the mains?

He's a newbie housebasher

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2 hours ago, Logan said:

Lol  i think you mean shedbasher

No he left the forum 

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9 hours ago, al-yeti said:

He's a newbie housebasher

I have every respect for him that he is trying to learn off his own back, but the regs are there for a reason (Mainly Safety) and if he is learning how to do stuff then he should find out how to do it properly. Otherwise he will be just like those other idiots out there that saw a picture of a burglar alarm and now think they are an experienced installer. Mains should be segregated from low voltage cables, not just for safety but to stop ac noise getting onto the low voltage circuits. If you dont point these things out how is somebody supposed to learn.

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It's all mains, what does he need to segregate? 


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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5 minutes ago, norman said:

It's all mains, what does he need to segregate? 

That's not a mains smoke detector 

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But ii read it correctly its mains right up to the back of it? So it's all mains in the conduit? 


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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I think Pete is right its the little things that make the difference between Johnny Average and a decent installer, I was lucky and, the thing is (and this is why I LOL at the whole 'part time ambo driver' slur)

is that for many years, long before I knew anything about ambulances other than you can help yourself to cool drugs and use the blue lights to get between McDonalds branches

getting free coffee in the lonely hours between massive car crash jobs, I spent years post C+G exams as a contractor* for a very decent, well respected, do-it-by-the-book firm and

learnt just as much from that as on my own, before then, sure I had passed my exams and did rewire a few houses, but stuff you learn on the job like doing conduit neatly and properly, MICC termination,

the difference between scruffy junction boxes and doing it right, you don't get taught that at college, and other more complex stuff, I don't know like all the peculiar rules around

earthing at special locations that kind of thing. Of course, follow the wrong firm and you'll likely pick up really bad habits, but I was lucky, without that, yes I'd probably convince myself I was as good

as anyone else, but I wouldn't really be in the position to tell. After all, if I'd only seen the shiite work we used to encounter without having done it properly myself, I'd probably just assume the shiite was normal!

 

*I should say a contractor with only about 5-6 people on the books, 3 of them directly employed, so we often worked together as a team so that made all the difference for picking stuff up...

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So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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Oh I agree ref training etc, but I thought it was all mains in the conduit? 


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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1 hour ago, Logan said:

ALSO KEEP IN MIND THIS IS ONLY FOR FUN

 

No such thing when you're playing with 240V TBF, temporary, maybe, but a lashup is a lashup - it only takes one fire or one electrocution.

 

1 hour ago, Logan said:

 I dont think the system would even be compliment as im using the old colour code cable

 

Perhaps not but it could at least be safe. IIRC there is no stipulation for core colours on 24V (or any other SELV) fire circuits, someone tell me I'm wrong mind ;) 

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So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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2 hours ago, Logan said:

It is. 

 

I honesty wouldn't worry about it... 

 

You could got to a proper co. & still get a "proper" fire alarm

 

 

 


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1 hour ago, datadiffusion said:

 

No such thing when you're playing with 240V TBF, temporary, maybe, but a lashup is a lashup - it only takes one fire or one electrocution.

 

 

Perhaps not but it could at least be safe. IIRC there is no stipulation for core colours on 24V (or any other SELV) fire circuits, someone tell me I'm wrong mind ;) 

How often you find a loose neutral? Weird init 

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