Gabriel Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Hi, I've got a an Accenta Gen4 mini 8 zone alarm panel and remote key pad to install and configure, as a replacement to an existing alarm system, which has been removed and the new Accenta Gen 4 installed in its place. I am looking for an experienced electrician familiar with Honeywell Accenta Gen4 mini 8 Zone to wire in the existing wires and configure the system. Any help with recommending a good installer and idea of how much it'll cost? With thanks Gabriel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gabriel said: Hi, I've got a an Accenta Gen4 mini 8 zone alarm panel and remote key pad to install and configure, as a replacement to an existing alarm system, which has been removed and the new Accenta Gen 4 installed in its place. I am looking for an experienced electrician familiar with Honeywell Accenta Gen4 mini 8 Zone to wire in the existing wires and configure the system. Any help with recommending a good installer and idea of how much it'll cost? With thanks Gabriel. Basically you need to ask on an electricians forum because most on here don't install this panel the electrician will also probably be cheaper but you might not get much aftercare if that's the right word still maybe someone will charge you 400 quid if the cables are already installed Just now, al-yeti said: Basically you need to ask on an electricians forum because most on here don't install this panel the electrician will also probably be cheaper but you might not get much aftercare if that's the right word still maybe someone will charge you 400 quid if the cables are already installed What area of the country are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 What area you in. Make sure you check the support you get electricians don't tend to support things, maintain, out of hours etc Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Get the electricians to fix your lights, get proper alarm installer to fit your alarm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Why not get a bricky to do your chipping or a plasterer to tile the roof... While some electricians maybe competent at fitting alarms many are not, some of the worst systems I have seen where fitted by electricians. If you knew you wanted the alarm replacing you would have been better getting quotes to do this before buying and replacing the panel. I wouldn't want to fit customer purchased kit as I can provide no warranty on it, you then have issues when it goes faulty. People think they are going to save money by buying the kit themselves but trade don't get it any cheaper, it just limits your options really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Thought we all did this sort of thing, I've got a mechanic coming next week to re roof the house. Hope he does as good a job as the real roofer. Anyone who thinks the local sparky is going to do a Better or Cheaper job fitting an Alarm system is seriously Barking up the wrong tree. Most of them charge a lot more and sure don't have the experience to do it properly. All I can say to the OP is good luck, your probably going to need it. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) First house I ever rewired the plumber had started the job off (perfectly legal pre-2004, if not stupid) and then disappeared. When I questioned the 100mA RCD, the lady didn't really know what I was on about, but then said 'oh he mentioned that I think, apparently they'd run out of something or other but he said this was just as good'. Edited August 25, 2019 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: First house I ever rewired the plumber had started the job off (perfectly legal pre-2004, if not stupid) and then disappeared. When I questioned the 100mA RCD, the lady didn't really know what I was on about, but then said 'oh he mentioned that I think, apparently they'd run out of something or other but he said this was just as good'. This country is weird Rcbo should be standard instead of flaffing around with split boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Everything is down to cost as always. I love to see the end of the RFC and Type A RCBO's as standard. As always it will take someone getting injured to make this become the standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Everything is down to cost as always. I love to see the end of the RFC and Type A RCBO's as standard. As always it will take someone getting injured to make this become the standard. Yes here we pay over the odds for standard gear lol What's the crack with the type A over others I never looked at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Type AC which have been the standard on domestic for years, either FTO or take many times the rating to trip, if you have even the smallest amount of DC circuit leaking back to the device. PV's and EV chargers are becoming more common, but even a poorly made phone charger, USB socket outlets or plug top DC transformer could cause this. Most of the stuff we plug in now a days is AC>DC, gone are the days of the post war copper shortage and a ring of undersized conductors, designed to power two 1 bar heaters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Type AC which have been the standard on domestic for years, either FTO or take many times the rating to trip, if you have even the smallest amount of DC circuit leaking back to the device. PV's and EV chargers are becoming more common, but even a poorly made phone charger, USB socket outlets or plug top DC transformer could cause this. Most of the stuff we plug in now a days is AC>DC, gone are the days of the post war copper shortage and a ring of undersized conductors, designed to power two 1 bar heaters... So you saying type b is better option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) I should add that this first rewire was back in 1995 MEM Memera 2000 cu, replacing a 2 circuit brown bakelite type Wylex. Had to get the board out for PME and an upgrade from the ceramic Siemens Brothers 40A cutout. Back before Part P (which of course has now been relaxed not to include outdoors) about a month later, the householder had a pond pump fitted via a garden centre(!) and the idiot tripped the RCD. He couldn't work out the old 'down then up' reset manouvre, so told the owner it was faulty. She got me to finish the job off and I don't think she ever paid for the pump or the bodged installation job at all. I agree all RCBO should be the norm except for specialist circuits. Edited September 6, 2019 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Type B would be over the top for domestic. A minimum standard needs to be reasonably attainable to be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aissecur Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 If cost is not an issue I always install RCBO's as standard on any consumer unit swap out or adding additional circuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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