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Wireless Bell Box ...can it be wired ?

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Hi All

 

I have just purchased one of those Yale IA220 kits
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273144001997?ul_noapp=true

 

I know, I know ....I would have been better off with a Pyronix or something a bit more beefy!

but we are struggling with the old cash-ola.

 

I have fitted alarms in the past ...but i am NOT a professional ...so I have only done it for myself.

Currently we have an old Gardiner one ...It was great ...20 years ago ...but it turned its toes up

last year and so I opted for an easy fit one ...as some of the sensors are also knacked and the PIR's

are a bit tatty ...

 

So I am going to give this a whirl at weekend ..problem is the bell box ...I am COOL with everything else being wireless.

But the current box is in a god-awful position and and yo have to go up a ladder and then lay on your belly on a dormer roof to get to it.

 

Leave it on ..I thought ..but as its rusty and grubby the wife wants it off ...but as we have had the house painted and stuff several times 

where it is looks like a completely different render and so i want to fix the yale box on the top of this c**p.

 

Problem is ...

 

1. I dont want to have to nip up every few years and change the batteries (as i am not getting any younger)

2. The gardiner used to have a "comfort LED" ..i think they are called and i was hoping to fit one in this yale box too

 

As the 6 wire cable is 100% fine and is going to the new panel location...is there any way i can fit something downstairs in or near the alrm panel
box that will power the box and give me a simple LED ....without using batteries that are dangerous to reach ?

 

any advice is appreciate

 

Paul

 

Edited by Paul Walker

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As above to be honest. You could have bought a fully wired good quality kit for half of that cost, re used the old wiring if good and away to go.

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1 hour ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

Pile of DIY rubbish not designed to be wired, would be better to reuse the existing wiring and upgrade what you have IMO.

wat e sed ^^^^

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1 hour ago, Specialist said:

As above to be honest. You could have bought a fully wired good quality kit for half of that cost, re used the old wiring if good and away to go.

Yea what he said ^^^

54 minutes ago, PeterJames said:

 

House basher

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3 hours ago, Paul Walker said:

I have fitted alarms in the past ...but i am NOT a professional

 

thats never stopped Al ;)

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24 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

thats never stopped Al ;)

You naughty boy, Lol.

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yeah ..i agree.

 

But since that was fitted there have been changes that involve moving 3 PIR anyway,

and a new contact on the patio doors etc ...and i just didnt fancy clipping cable around again

plus "she" thinks it looks messy.

 

plus we have 2 psycho jack russells and the alarm is only a second line of defence LOL.

I didnt pay that for the yale.i think it was £225 and i had to use a £50 credit note from screwfix anyway....so cheaper still 

 

But with all this in mind ...is there anything technically "wrong" with running a DC supply from say an adaptor

up the 6 core with a feed going to the siren (to power bell and presumably wifi module) and another feed going to 

a comfort LED?...or even a lithium battery pack i could tuck away in a small easily accessible project box

 

 

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Technically not really as long as you know where to make the connections and use a minimum 1 amp PSU that's rated for constant use, not cheap Chinese tat. The comfort led could run off the same line as they take so little current. Just remember that as soon as you start opening / altering the "sounder" any warranty you had will be void.

The other consideration would be your house insurance if the thing caught fire after you'd modified it, think you'll find you voided that as well.

Please don't ask for details of how to connect your sounder, the engineers answering questions are all Pro's and wouldn't touch the stuff with the proverbial bargepole.

 

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There's the thing SWB: It's our opinion, we know it's not really up to the job but the DIY sheds are still going to keep churning it out and the punters are going to keep buying it.

Joe public see's the name Yale on the box & thinks it must be good and I can fit it myself without paying an installer, so I've got more money to spend on my Booze, Fags, Dope or whatever else is the in thing for them. Even seen them fitted to a few business premises lately.

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11 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

funny how none of the diy places have yale systems protecting the yale stock...

Yeah, strange that isn't it.

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6 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

funny how none of the diy places have yale systems protecting the yale stock...

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Nice, definitely think the Yellow box looks much better Lol.

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13 minutes ago, PeterJames said:

 

 

You forgot to replace the fixed housings for Swann bullets...

 

It's one way wireless and not worth the electricity to power it. Just as effective to throw some dummies up with flasher modules if you want cheap.

 

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2 hours ago, Specialist said:

. Even seen them fitted to a few business premises lately.

More than a few these days after while they scrap it put in an enforcer or visonic or just keep money for there dope or whatever else they do lol

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Usual trouble with English , EU thing....

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Yeah it's ridiculous, protecting your livelihood with something like that ;-)

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16 hours ago, james.wilson said:

funny how none of the diy places have yale systems protecting the yale stock...

 

Who'd steal a Yale alarm

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7 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

Who'd steal a Yale alarm

eBay sellers ?

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Come on guys tell the truth. You know you all secretly yearn for a nice shiny new Yale sounder on your houses Lol.

 

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