Titch007 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Hi all, Another issue with my alarm. On searching on the forum, I understand that a TRBL POWER fault on the DA system Abacus is due to a faulty battery. Just wondering if I remove the cover to find out what battery to get, will all hell break lose? I've not reset the system or set it as I fear the internal sounder will just go off for hours. I just moved into this property and been left with no manuals etc. I have no engineer codes either, just the master code. I'm assuming that if I undo the cover on the box, a tamper fault will register. Do I just switch the battery and reset the system with the master code? Or is this a job for the professionals? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance, Titch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lymebayalarms Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 If you don't know the code, call in the Pro's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Titch007 said: Hi all, Another issue with my alarm. On searching on the forum, I understand that a TRBL POWER fault on the DA system Abacus is due to a faulty battery. Just wondering if I remove the cover to find out what battery to get, will all hell break lose? I've not reset the system or set it as I fear the internal sounder will just go off for hours. I just moved into this property and been left with no manuals etc. I have no engineer codes either, just the master code. I'm assuming that if I undo the cover on the box, a tamper fault will register. Do I just switch the battery and reset the system with the master code? Or is this a job for the professionals? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance, Titch Trbl Power is also the message for AC fail. Try to set the system with the master code then unset the system and if it is AC failure and the AC has restored the panel will be reset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Is it a metal box , or plastic box ? Different size batteries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titch007 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Thanks for the responses guys. So I'll definitely need a engineer code to change the battery even though I have the master? I managed to download a copy of the Abacus manual and it said if it was an AC fault the code TRBL SUPPLY. I reset the system. The TRBL power code disappeared but after 5mins the interval bell went off again with the same fault code. The box is metal. Has anyone got any idea which battery is standard or best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Amps said: Trbl Power is also the message for AC fail. Try to set the system with the master code then unset the system and if it is AC failure and the AC has restored the panel will be reset. Im sure it says trbl mains if its mains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 12v 7ah will fit if it's the metal end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 What you mean interval bell? You mean it just started beeping on internal speaker with the high tone? That will be the battery You got nothing to lose , just put new battery in , if it's engineer reset you will have to call someone out , ask them to make it user reset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titch007 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Sorry, that's auto correct. I meant internal bell. Cool, I'll give it a go in the morning. Don't want to wake the entire neighbourhood up triggering the main alarm! Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 46 minutes ago, al-yeti said: 12v 7ah will fit if it's the metal end Or the plastic with a hacksaw... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Trbl power = battery Trbl mains = No AC to the controls. all of the abacus panels will take a 7amp battery although it's a bit tight on the 8P, the plastic one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 6/14 with built in keypad will take 7ah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 didn't gods dad make the abacus? Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I think we established it was AlYetis auntie Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 nah built in china who knew Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Southall I thought? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 ah you have met Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 They did good job of stealing ideas though lol , no point designing or thinking if your own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 yeah those southalls Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Southallians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titch007 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Hahahaha. . . Btw, I took the panel off and found this... Ordered an identical one.. Out of interest, it says rechargeable. Is it worth recharging in future or just change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Its constantly recharging, it is powering your alarm, and the mains is charging it. After four years the cells breakdown and they are no longer able to hold the charge. Hence why the panel was reporting power trouble. Leaving replacement longer eventually kills the charging circuit of the control panel and replacing the battery doesnt fix the fault (Well it does for a few hours/days) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) 29 minutes ago, PeterJames said: Its constantly recharging, it is powering your alarm, and the mains is charging it. After four years the cells breakdown and they are no longer able to hold the charge. Hence why the panel was reporting power trouble. Leaving replacement longer eventually kills the charging circuit of the control panel and replacing the battery doesnt fix the fault (Well it does for a few hours/days) dwd Quote What he means to say is it might be too late, not always the case though, so a new battery is worth a try (p.s no idea why this is a quote - it keeps happening on Chrome though, can't be deleted and you can't put normal text below and is getting very annoying) Edited November 8, 2016 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titch007 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Thanks for the info. Battery ordered. I'll for when it arrives and fingers crossed it's all good! Thanks for all who helped! Great forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 4 hours ago, datadiffusion said: I get it on Yandex and FFox its a PITA Ive told James but he just keeps saying he could have me in a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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