james.wilson Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Your electrician friend was wrong, solder them. qfa securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Your electrician friend was wrong, solder them. QFA 2 Replace cable with alarm cable would be better though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon K Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Replying to this quite old topic. The alarm has been playing up again, have checked all of the connections but I think it's just that the panel and RKP are rubbish. So I plan to replace this weekend, and wanted advice as to a good replacement (plenty of time to get it delivered). What do we think of these two as a replacement for the panel and the keypad: http://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=866 http://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=865 I chose the "compact" over the 'mini' because it has a built-in keypad for control in case something happens on the remote one. Do these seem like a reasonable replacement or can people recommend something better? (I'll pay up to £100 if it's for something "demonstrably" better, but I'd like to understand how it's a better option). Also, would the panel come with an installers manual and default engineering code? I'm a little worried that in this day and age they might assume that only professionals install these, who can get access to PDF manuals from trade bodies etc, and so won't ship a printed manual to save costs! I'm perfectly qualified to install something simple like this, but I'm not a professional installer... -simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Personally, I'd say by the time you disturb all those CAT5 cables again, it likely changing the panel will be the least of your problems. I'd get the wires changed first, if you can. So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 equipment is fine for your purpose, however I assume your going to rewire the system ? who can get access to PDF manuals from trade bodies etc, and so won't ship a printed manual to save costs! there's an amazing invention called the internet, I'd imagine google could be your friend ? Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergibbons Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I've worked with a couple of cheap solid core CAT5 systems. I found terminating all it in a screw terminal strip mounted in a box and jumpering to something less likely to break if touched made it far easier to work with. Ripping it out is preferable though. I have a blog, some of which is about alarm security and reverse engineering:http://cybergibbons.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon K Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Cybergibbons: that's exactly what I plan to do. Unfortunately rewiring the house is not an option - it would involve too much destructive work. If that's the only option, I'll likely end up wireless (although I am not keen on that at all, both because I'm concerned it would be a source of RFI for my Ham activities, and because I doubt that the systems truly provide "wired equivalent" security (I make that statement based on exactly no investigation or evidence, I simply have many years of experience working in security). MrHappy - unfortunately the engineering manual is quite hard to find on the internet, for example in specialist forums like this it's against the rules to post them. Do you know if one would be supplied or am I going to be reliant on my google-fu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I don't buy the product, however last Friday I need a book & googled for one & it was user manual & eng manual as one. Which I assume they supply with the product Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 The accentas/optimas do come with a manual, but easy to find http://lmgtfy.com/?q=honeywell+optima+gen4+manual securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon K Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hey, thanks much. Clearly I was searching for the wrong text - I was basing it around ADE rather than Honeywell. Looking at the manual, it looks like this should be a pretty simple swap. Hopefully it'll also integrate with my SD2 dialler too. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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