TPEDEVON Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Cough! Yeah that's two completely different things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Why did your first business fail? I know 4 out of 5 business fail but that's due to lack of knowledge and resources. They obviously jump the gun without the correct resources etc. However I'm prepared, I have all the paperwork, company name, sales literature and other literature and so on. All I need now to do now is van, insurance and advertisement but I'm taking my time planning and doing it carefully making sure I don't miss anything so I'm not setup to fail Gaz will love this but I blame Thatcher LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Why did your first business fail? I know 4 out of 5 business fail but that's due to lack of knowledge and resources. They obviously jump the gun without the correct resources etc. However I'm prepared, I have all the paperwork, company name, sales literature and other literature and so on. All I need now to do now is van, insurance and advertisement but I'm taking my time planning and doing it carefully making sure I don't miss anything so I'm not setup to fail Have you done a BP? how many systems do you need to install/maintain to earn a livable wage? what is your forecast for year on year growth and how do you propose to attain it? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 As above what are you planning to take from your employer? What do you think they will do? Is that your growth plan? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPEDEVON Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 the term is realistic not negative,what experience you got installing/servicing/selling/pricing jobs up have you got years of seeing customers and giving them a service you can promise to maintain if they come with you etc etc I've been done install, service, commission, quoted big jobs that you wouldn't believe. I can't say the company name but I've land one 40,000 job which we did over Christmas period and just about to land another big job. I've got the experience, I'm not as thick as you think. I know what I'm talking about. I know the standards inside out as you should too. Of course I can maintain a customers site, I have the experience and competence to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 No one is saying you are thick, calm down. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPEDEVON Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Have you done a BP? how many systems do you need to install/maintain to earn a livable wage? what is your forecast for year on year growth and how do you propose to attain it? Yes I have calculated everything I need to know to prepare myself and my business. It's all noted thank you, thanks for the tips but I've done it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I've been done install, service, commission, quoted big jobs that you wouldn't believe. I can't say the company name but I've land one 40,000 job which we did over Christmas period and just about to land another big job. I've got the experience, I'm not as thick as you think. I know what I'm talking about. I know the standards inside out as you should too. Of course I can maintain a customers site, I have the experience and competence to do so why do I always attract them..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Because you are a mong magnet, when are you next going fishing with pOx? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPEDEVON Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 No one is saying you are thick, calm down. I never said someone did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Because you are a mong magnet, when are you next going fishing with pOx? fishing?? I was thinking of giving him a start,heard he's a decent installer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPEDEVON Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 I came here for advice, you obviously can't get it here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I came here for advice, you obviously can't get it here how old are you out of interest .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPEDEVON Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 27, why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I came here for advice, you obviously can't get it here Cold, hard advice is not what you want to hear, you want stroking and telling everything is going to be OK. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 27, why because I still want tea with milk and one sugar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 you want stroking. Now, remember what the nice policeman said... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPEDEVON Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Go get it then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I came here for advice, you obviously can't get it here you are getting it, its just not what you want to hear. If you prefer we can set up a new area just for that. You asked the question you will do it anyway, in a few weeks you will agree with what has been said. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Now, remember what the nice policeman said... That's exactly what he said to me. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Go get it then your not even a good apprentice never mind businessman,listen to the advise your not ready to go it alone get a few more years behind you then think about it while earning a decent wage without the stress of worrying how to pay it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 OP im guessing you look at the invoice for the job and think its way too much. Thats with your van etc payed for by that invoice. Look at the numbers again and work it out. If not you will be another ssiab man in a van with a chip. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPEDEVON Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Quite a bit which will be the same if you are part time (like me) or not. Efficiency Insurance Public Liability Insurance Business type car/van insurance At least some stock as spares against call outs Ideally a separate landline or at least the appearance of one that directs to a mobile Book-keeper (or DIY) Accountant (DIY can be done, but not always the best way) Vetting if your hoping to be approved Ltd. status if you're hoping to be approved That's just off the top of my head. Thanks for info, taken onboard! Do you get a lot of business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 That's exactly what he said to me. Good, just wanted to make sure. Thanks for info, taken onboard! Do you get a lot of business? No. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 . If not you will be another ssiab man in a van with a chip. oof,there's a dig in there somewhere ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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