AdamAlarm Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have read so many posts saying two way is better than one way wireless. Well, this is true for the middle and upper end systems because they use a combination. Normal PIR's don't need two way wireless, only certain types really like video verification detectors etc need two way and top manufacturers have identified this. Purely 2 way systems are that way because the technology they are using is limited or they are not advanced enough to incorporate the two systems. Hence it tends to be the bigger companies that do. A good one way system is better than a cheap two way system. If you are only fitting a home installation with standard pir requirements, then a two way has no real-world advantage. As for claims by some companies that they arm quicker, that is just a load of BS. This is true for 1-3 detectors, but any more they take just as long. Its simple, pay peanuts for products, monkeys have made them. I would not want a monkey made system protecting my family. If you want a cheap panel, buy a good cheap panel, not a **** cheap panel disguised by BS specifications. Alarms are the same as any electrical good, buy a Tekinika tv from asda, its specs suggest it is on the same par as a Samsung all singing - all dancing, but we all know it isn't, so buy a cheaper, less specified Samsung instead. Rant over, Peace..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have read so many posts saying two way is better than one way wireless. Well, this is true for the middle and upper end systems because they use a combination. Normal PIR's don't need two way wireless, only certain types really like video verification detectors etc need two way and top manufacturers have identified this. Purely 2 way systems are that way because the technology they are using is limited or they are not advanced enough to incorporate the two systems. Hence it tends to be the bigger companies that do. A good one way system is better than a cheap two way system. If you are only fitting a home installation with standard pir requirements, then a two way has no real-world advantage. As for claims by some companies that they arm quicker, that is just a load of BS. This is true for 1-3 detectors, but any more they take just as long. 2 way is better than 1 way wireless. It's not a myth it's fact. While quality is a whole different issue, 2 way wireless have huge advantages. From a battery life POV many 2 way systems can sleep or switch indicators off to reduce running costs. From a security POV a 2 way system means that both the panel and detector know if the signal has been received. At the end of the day if it's a low risk property any alarm is better than no alarm, so I see what you are trying to explain. However, it is important people understand 1 way wireless is cheaper for a reason and that it's only purpose should be low risk properties. Its simple, pay peanuts for products, monkeys have made them. I would not want a monkey made system protecting my family. This I agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Id agree 2 way is far superior. Adam just to confirm 2 way doesn't mean a camera? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Id agree 2 way is far superior. Adam just to confirm 2 way doesn't mean a camera? I dont think he was saying it was James. Adam wireless is much better than one way, and as far as I can make out all two way wireless systems are made by reputable manufacturers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 i dont think 'reputable' comes into it. not all 2 way is equal Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I have read so many posts saying two way is better than one way wireless. Well, this is true for the middle and upper end systems because they use a combination. Normal PIR's don't need two way wireless, only certain types really like video verification detectors etc need two way and top manufacturers have identified this. Purely 2 way systems are that way because the technology they are using is limited or they are not advanced enough to incorporate the two systems. Hence it tends to be the bigger companies that do. A good one way system is better than a cheap two way system. If you are only fitting a home installation with standard pir requirements, then a two way has no real-world advantage. As for claims by some companies that they arm quicker, that is just a load of BS. This is true for 1-3 detectors, but any more they take just as long. Its simple, pay peanuts for products, monkeys have made them. I would not want a monkey made system protecting my family. If you want a cheap panel, buy a good cheap panel, not a **** cheap panel disguised by BS specifications. Alarms are the same as any electrical good, buy a Tekinika tv from asda, its specs suggest it is on the same par as a Samsung all singing - all dancing, but we all know it isn't, so buy a cheaper, less specified Samsung instead. Rant over, Peace..... So which panels are you comparing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 i dont think 'reputable' comes into it. not all 2 way is equal Different methods of 2 way but I still cant think of a 2 way manufacturer that is not a well known brand which was my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamAlarm Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) One way can sleep just the same as a two way, the only difference is is that the panel wakes it up. A two way detector only knows if it has been activated because it is not fully asleep. So, not sure what that point is about. In the end it is down to quality and algorithms. The cheap two ways are based on early technology, whilst the newer (Which tend to be more expensive) are based on far more advanced and better thought out algorithms and state of the art electronics. If you want two way, pay a little more. If people don't want to pay it, put a good one way in. Edited September 5, 2014 by AdamAlarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 One way can sleep just the same as a two way, the only difference is is that the panel wakes it up. Still 1 way can't handshake. It doesn't know it's signal hadn't been blocked/intercepted/jammed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 1 way should only be used for doorbells Imo. Nothing important. Like mail, you got something import and to send you don't just throw it in a post box and cross it fingers? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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