norman Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Programme as 0 closed loop Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 What sensors, and we need a pic to be sure securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajbps Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Meq's? Wired in cat5 as well by the looks of it. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajbps Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 yes its cat 5 Do you think its the cat 5 cable thats the issue? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 No its just prone to snapping and causing issues. You have wired them as Closed loop. With a common anti tamper. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Well yes!...cat5 is for cat5 applications, 8 core alarm cable is for 8 core alarm cable applications, Why else would there be different cable types?. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajbps Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 so if i get the right cable and with the current wiring should it work Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethecamera Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 The cable isn't your problem, it's not the correct cable for the job, but, providing it is all terminated and not snapped where you've screwed it in to the termination strips it will work. From your initial post it seems you have open circuits on zones 1,2 & 3 and an open circuit on the global tamper. Zones points to no 12v dc at the detectors, either you have a short somewhere, a broken wire, or you've crosed polarity. The 9651 (IIRC) has a thermal fuse so it shouldn't be that. Ideally you need a multimeter to start tracing your fault, if you dont have one check each detector individually, when they are correct the led will light in the detector, indicating power. The tamper is most likely going to be either a tamper spring in a detector or a broken wire at termination, (cat 5 again), again a meter makes it easy to trace, but failing that wire each one in individually until the fault recurs, this will tell you which one has the open circuit. You can buy a multimeter for less than £10 which will do what you need, and by the look of all that cat5, it may prove an invaluable investment in th future! Mike I've learned so much from my mistakes, I'm thinking of making a few more.. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Or you wired the keypad tamper connector through it, disconnect it see what happens if that's the case , seems like wiring issue Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/36991-cooper-menvier-9651/page/2/#findComment-388216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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