No they aren't but as soon as you integrate automation into any alarm panel the alarm system loses it's grading anyhow.

That's not true

oh right sorry I thought it was. I am sure though more often than not you lose the alarm system grading when adding automation?

No, the same as you can fit non graded kit to a graded system such as Master Blaster etc.

 

As long as you conform to the minimum required graded items you can use non graded and they are classed as supplementary.

 

You CANNOT use any non graded detection devices though.

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co. local to me does HA for residential, looking at their case studies there main interest is commercial work.<br />

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whilst tech filters down to the extend where big tellys are the norm, a professionally installed spec like<br />

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must be ballpark same £ as new A4 ?<br />

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<a href='http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=6628'>house.jpg</a><br />

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<a href='http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=6629'>house2.jpg</a><br />

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I can see the likes of you, I & the forum's dentist having self installed system, I can't see a large enough market of those with deep enough pockets to pay for.</p></blockquote>

V nice place.il never have a place like that so long as i have a hole in my ass.

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="MrHappy" data-cid="298827" data-time="1357517234"><p>

co. local to me does HA for residential, looking at their case studies there main interest is commercial work.<br />

<br />

whilst tech filters down to the extend where big tellys are the norm, a professionally installed spec like<br />

<br />

<br />

must be ballpark same £ as new A4 ?<br />

<br />

<a href='http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=6628'>house.jpg</a><br />

<br />

<a href='http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=6629'>house2.jpg</a><br />

<br />

I can see the likes of you, I & the forum's dentist having self installed system, I can't see a large enough market of those with deep enough pockets to pay for.</p></blockquote>

V nice place.il never have a place like that so long as i have a hole in my ass.

I used to think like that, things always look a long way away but you can achieve anything if you put your mind to it and work hard. Mind you that said I have some customers that have houses I couldnt afford if I one the lottery several times.

I work hard enough its just south west is not great for wages and the banks will only lend enough to buy a double garage!! Nice to think it will happen tho thanks pj

Agreed with customers some of ours are incredible!

Money does not make the man SJ, family, friends and health do and some of the happiest people I know have jack.

Well that's blown my illusion of you being a uncaring prat Norm!...thanks.....lol, incidentally my thoughts to mate.

I find as you get older you begin to value different things, you should understand at your age.