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The result will still be the same as if you turn round and say 'I'm not paying my credit card bill', although unlike that the deterrent won't be 'you can't watch TV'. But you'll get the same judgements etc... that can affect your life elsewhere.

I'm sure last time I asked I had a direct account too. Looks like online ordering is out the question

U got one in stock?

CAME UK account area - Danger: Malware Ahead! Google Chrome has blocked access to this page on www.cameuk.com. Content from kszzavuu.freewww.info, a known malware distributor, has been inserted into this web page As reported to them back in DECEMBER. No idle threat either, as Windows Defender has just blocked and deleted a trojan.... Surely, is it just me???!! Or do they have no other customers?!

Bump.... Had this today, was convinced before I even saw this thread or the gates it would be the sensors but turned out the relay board. Basically if you tapped the relay(s), whichever had the sticky coil would move and all would be fine! However, Oxo mentioned the hooj capacitors so wondered if anyone else had experience? @ PSE where can I get a new ZA4 board for £45? Did have a direct CAME account once, was there where it was that price?

I wouldnt say ion is a diy panel by any means, but the one the diyer has best chance of grasping, support is 0898 type no if your not touchpoint though. Wireless good if you just want to add a fob or two, no good for detector use being 1 way. Siemens the better, not tried hkc.

Siemens SPC 2nd model up from base AFAIK scanny ion40 is the cheapest with on board wireless too. No apps though, just browser, albeit now with mobile centric keypad page. Wireless in one way though.

Yes, i-On remote access isn't the best or the most secure, but real-world, for a self install (where an intruder can't see a box outside suggesting the system brand) I'd say am I-On 40 Hybrid fits the bill. Texe does too but costwise the COM-IP might poo on the price. Adrian did mention a vastly cheaper COM-IP coming soon though, AFAIK. Like everything, all non-monitored monitoring is as bad all non-monitored monitoring!

Might help

Security Warehouse Eco 4 Channel Budget DVR Introduction Search for ‘4 Channel Analogue DVR’ on the internet and you’ll find more results ll not die and ironically you can now even get analogue DVRs in almost stylish white iMac mini type cases, aimed at home use; although they don’t feature things like RS485. It could be argued that ICs like the Sony Effio series or the 960H format have pushed analogue into realms of quality not envisaged 5 years ago when IP was seen as the best way forward, squeezing that extra bit of performance out of analogue video with little difference in cost for the camera, as opposed to IP where entry level is still at a high price and even using a PC or server as the DVR, good software is not free. Price though, is a major plus for the Security Warehouse Eco 4 channel DVR. Specially sourced, this entry level unit nevertheless offers a lot of features, and is a true professional grade product for the same price as a restaurant meal for two. But it turns out the low price doesn’t put it the same league as other (often dearer) dubious online offerings with brand names you’ve never heard of – far from it. This line of DVRs comes in 4, 8 and 16 channel varieties, and on all but the entry level 4 channel version you get hardwired alarm inputs, per-channel loop through, and twin HDs. All versions feature common software, full D1/960H recording and HDMI monitor support. In the box The DVR, hard drive screws, SATA lead, manuals, CD-ROM, UK IEC lead, PSU, remote control handset, USB optical mouse. Setting up Adding the hard drive is simple, although requires basic tools, and then setup can be completed rapidly. The Linux based OS fires up in seconds, and the drive was formatted within a minute or two. No issue at all with recognition of the drive. DHCP worked fine but I went for a static address, and then added a dyndns.org username and password with no issues. The netviewer software connected straight away on Windows 7 (64 bit), the GUI of which is identical to the IE or Mac Safari web interface – just note that it’s not currently Chrome compatible. Pleasingly, the ipad and iphone software worked straight away and, after a couple of minor issues, neither of which have ever occurred again, so did the android. A windows phone app is apparently in the works, but there is no indication of when. Bear in mind settings can only be changed with the webserver or the netviewer software, or of course the unit itself. Suffice to say when using the unit directly, with the supplied USB mouse, all orks well; interaction and response to menus etc… is instant. The back panel In use It took only about 10 minutes to have everything set up the way I wanted it; i.e. permissions, users, motion recording etc… There are options for motion activated emails too; on this 4 camera unit, no hardware alarm inputs. There was definitely no need for a manual and the only slightly annoying thing is the ‘line by line’ setup for the cameras etc… rather than seeing them in a grid or table fashion, but there is a copy function that comes in handy. Many budget competitors are no different in this respect. Retrieving footage is a doddle and even the most ‘challenging’ customer should have no issue with this, remotely or otherwise, it even ‘talks’ you through it. The timeline is a little hard to navigate when reviewing motion captured footage until you realise you can ‘zoom in’ by using the scroll wheel on the mouse. Watching all 4 screens in sync is of course not an issue. Footage can be easily exported to a USB stick. Under the hood Running a Linux based operating system, the quality of the PCB and components are as good as any other I’ve seen. The PCB was clean and the SMT components neatly arranged; nothing skewed or covered in stray flux or glue. There are no fans on the 4 channel model. Software Logging on with netviewer 2.0… Netviewer in use… (The IE web browser look and feel is the same) Rxcam for ipad, iphone, and android… Long term test I’ve had my test system up and running for over a month now, and have been very happy with its operation. Whilst my cameras aren’t yet where I’ve wanted them, i.e. outdoors, the motion detect facility has worked well when they have been tripped in their temporary location. I’d have no problem using this for my own customers, and will be using it permanently on my own house alongside some demo Axis units. Summary I would not hesitate to install this system where required for a budget system; at the right discount level you’ll find it less than anything else comparable out there. What’s great? 1. The price – I haven’t seen anything at this price point that performs so well or built as well. 2. Quality images – this doesn’t feel like a cheap, low res budget DVR. 3. Ease of use – you won’t get the customer phoning up in a pickle from a simple operation like reviewing footage. 4. Step up to the HD-SDI models and the interface is identical, no learning how to operate it all over again. Worth pointing out… 1. PSU on this 4 channel version feels a little lightweight. It’s more money, but I’d be half tempted to change it on some jobs for something a bit more substantial. That said, there have been no issues so far. 2. No support for Chrome browser, however, IE and Mac Safari does and there are plenty of reliable and externally maintained tablet and phone apps, which work perfectly. 3. Competition – whilst most rivals at this price will be utter junk, the likes of the barebones Alien range are not that far away. Reassuringly though, this exact same DVR under a brand name sells for twice as much at most outlets to the public; an ‘all in one box’ kit based around this DVR is also sold at some “trade only” electrical wholesalers for a much higher price per component. Being offered it at the Security Warehouse price allows you to still do a pro job for less than the sparky. Room for improvement / wishlist It would be nice to be able to upload a logo and change the colour scheme (currently any colour you’d like, as long as it’s green) to suit your corporate colours. Ditto an ‘installer only’ area to protect and lock such choices. The configuration screens for some of the options could be tidied up so you could see all chosen options at once. But, this isn’t enough to put me off. Manuals and CD-Rom aren’t great; bit Chinglish, but not essential. Conclusion A great value budget DVR that might be useful as an upsell to an intruder system or as a replacement for an older system where you can’t persuade the customer to go for anything higher spec. Specification Display Resolution PAL: 960×576 @25fps (each channel, Frame) Record Resolution PAL: D1 mode 360×288 (CIF),720x288 (HD1), 720x576 (D1) 960H mode: 480×288 (WCIF),960×288 (WHD1), 960×576 WD1 Record Speed PAL: (each channel) D1 / 960H mode: 25fps Playback Channel 1/4 Channel Playback speed simultaneously 8CH Record PAL: (each channel) D1 / 960H: 25fps Mobile Surveillance Mobile Phones view based on iPhone, Android, Windows Mobile (TBA) & Blackberry Hope this helps!

Lol, I expect they say, wire it up via the RS485...

Pete sees an opportunity to underquote...

At least it seems to be labelled on the case

Where's banksy when you need him?

It's a relatively common connector in a way, just not one you'll easily (if at all) buy in qty of one and a bag of ten pins. You might only be able to solder wires on then fill cavity with glue or potting. If its for a home project, of course.

If you insist, ok, er very good post Mr H well done.

Or, worse again, they fix it, but because its a bit embarassing - and they can't actually explain the cause, just patch it - don't tell you there is fix until you phone up after lots of hair tearing... (not your co Adrian )

Didnt know they did them, fair enough. As I say its only smokes and panics (and remotes, which are 2 way) id be happy using now on scanny wireless. Its a shame as the 30, 50 and 160 are quite nice to work with.

Its on webway mind, although ive had to turn jamming and supervision off (joke) I think a lot of the texe wireless issues on here have been sorted by correct install procedure though? Id be happy with using scanny smokes on wireless. Self contained anyway with own siren.

@9651 Oops assumed wired replacement. Agreed 1 way scanny is poor (although I have one site with 20 devices, and, touch wood no issues) hence my interest in Texe ricochet. OP, what wireless extras did you envisage adding? Just that as 9651 said scanny wireless is not so hot. If it was only wireless panics etc... I would be less concerned.

Given those limited choices, i'd say Scantronic, assume you have been quoted for the 30? Galaxy is good but I have little experience and would Scanny more user friendly in a domestic situation. A solid panel imho, totally different to the 16 and 40. I too offer remote assisstance on this panel using webway. However, I also offer Siemens and dont rule out Texecom, I dont install it yet but looks good to me.

The comment still stands

Lol, I actually know most of those cameras from my yoof around the area. I also know where the gatso graveyard is (or was now, I think the council sold it off to a paving shop) Aethiest myself mate...

To a point I cant really critiscise the shops security policy. Nothing on the shelf that is pocketable is sold at more than a fiver. Batteries are kept on the till (Panasonic Gold, made in EU, best prices in the area!) Power tools and blades at customer service counter. And now it appears every aisle has at least 4 cameras.

Er, not necessarily, definitely round here though, i.e. former Avon, Wiltshire, Somerset and Gloucester partnership is dissolved and all cameras visibly rotting away But many others are in full swing AFAIK.