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I did, and they came round and were pretty happy at the informal visit (still looked at pretty much everything other than a sample job) Ever since then I have been competing with a total lack of new business approved or otherwise, my narrowboat I really need to sell, and a million other distractions It really is still on the cards and the next thing on my list... Yeah no worries, you see what I mean though, I think you need to really be approved before you can call other approved as having 'alternative standards', even if they couldn't wire a bellbox strobe like some of the nobheads round here. Still, I say it again, they're getting more new customers than me...

Yes I know your is, but I'm not so its an uphill battle for me to try and suggest that approved isn't all its cracked up to be, quality wise.

I think that's a fair enough way of dealing with it, unfortunately that tends to backfire a little when you're (I'm) the unapproved party especially it would seem in our neck of the woods.

Indeed, I always politely do (I've even got an A5 booklet explaining why we're not peanuts, from efficacy insurance to webway) and still lose out to the speech dialler cru My point is just that really, can you really tell on the phone between whose you might be able to turn around to your POV and those that just want cheap?

How does that go? Do people fess up or get shirty? Do you basically tell them you'll be at least double their quote? Do people still ask you to come?

What about other approved doing it for peanuts though? What is the typical outcome then? I'm not arguing the toss, just genuinely interested based on my recent experiences.

Bit like a slug in a poorly glanded outside J/B?

Insulated lugs? Wow not seen them since rewiring 1950s flats with the old 'lets save 2p worth of copper' 2 core lighting circuits

Those pin 'safety' devices boil my pizz. Local cafe has one - snapped off - in a socket, exposing the L + N shutters ( Without the 'safety' device it would have been 1000x safer.

Its decorating etc... when it becomes an issue, sockets hanging off... I can't quite remember where it was but I had to add a load of links the other day, no doubt leaving every other socket in the house without one as-fitted.

Hi Mark, You'll be fine. Ok, I understand why you've gone for the Activ8's fair enough. Any device with alarm and tamper loops can be converted to EOL, as I understand it the panel should come with 16 1K resistors. like this except I have NO idea why they've soldered it, just use the terminals! I know nothing about the flex so someone else will be along shortly to explain which expander(s) you need. You can do the same for the contact as above BUT I recommend you spend an extra £6 and buy an EOL contact with them built in, trust me doing it with resistors (unless you have the kind of contact with proper terminals rather than screw heads) is asking for trouble later! Going back to the bell you'll need to add up the current consumption of all the PIRS (will be in the manuals) and the two bells in standby. Then add the current for both of them sounding, compare it with available panel current (so a 1A panel will NOT have 1A available) etc... Have a look at the very recent thread started by zerozero (skip to the last couple of posts) for a better explanation! EDIT - as above but I don't know the panel, but suspect it will be too much as standard...

Screech of brakes on unbridled criticism..... (joke) OK Mark all sounds reasonable, you'll need an expander as James said, its a shame you didn't ask before you bought as although SW are a great place to buy I would personally have bought from their extensive range of PIRs with EOL built in, such as Siemens, ditto for the contacts unless they are already EOL type, i.e. Knight or Elmdene with built in 1k/1k resistors. I'm not that familiar with the flex but be careful with the bells re: current draw; what I've done in the past is had one bell on SAB mode and the other on SCB, assuming the AG6 supports this; if it does it will be very clear on the instructions. Hope this helps!

And that's why you can't watch stuff (annoyingly) on iplayer just after its finished I guess.

If you're causing it, I'd say it makes no difference. After all its being captured live. In fact the TVL website specifically covers this, 'do I need a licence for Sky+' is a question...

AFAIK.... You can watch a TV at a caravan etc... as long as you have a licence at home and no-one is using your TV at home I think there is some getout that you don't need any licence at all for a handheld TV (remember those Casio LCD ones!) I know when I was doing my Comms stuff we were told (assume correctly) that PC TV tuners were not exempt... (nothing to do with the course, I mean by the landlord) So would be interesting if you could use a handheld tablet etc... to watch unlimited TV!

Yep, iPlayer and ITV player are good....

Yep

Nothing - just one more reply then you can ask a site admin for trade access,

If you're trade, you just need 2 more posts to apply, and you'll find a discussion on t'other side...

Replaced a monitor PSU the other day. But was installed slightly badly (by others).

Yeah right after Burnley Five-O

Not my area of expertise! Ask me one about calcium channel blockers!

Yes they have no right. But just like the bailiffs they'll just come so often you'll do anything to stop it I guess.

If you let them in, and they find the set both tuned in and/or aerial wires connected, its enough AFAIK.