Eugene's DIY Den Posted Wednesday at 11:47 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:47 (edited) Something in the shed triggered my alarm last night. I'm thinking warm air currents in front of sensors or tamper contacts stick/slipping in this heat because of expansion/contraction or maybe bats. Does this panel differentiate between an alarm triggered by a sensor in a loop on a zone or the alarm triggered by a tamper going o/c on that zone? The panel just says a"Alarm" with the zone name. These false triggers are infrequent, maybe one or two a year, but always seem to happen in really hot weather. Edited Wednesday at 11:48 by Eugene's DIY Den Quote Talking Tools, a Facebook group for discussing anything tool/DIY related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted Wednesday at 14:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:28 All systems should show alarm, tamper and (if radio) battery faults separately, it's an important part of diagnosing a false alarm event. Unless you wire something up wrong, an alarm is the sensor triggering be that a fault or the environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene's DIY Den Posted Wednesday at 18:21 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 18:21 3 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: All systems should show alarm, tamper and (if radio) battery faults separately, it's an important part of diagnosing a false alarm event. Unless you wire something up wrong, an alarm is the sensor triggering be that a fault or the environment. So should it specify zone number, name, followed by type of alarm triggering event? I'll check if this actually does happen and report back. If it doesn't, does it mean I have detailed alarm event reporting turned off in the menu somewhere? Quote Talking Tools, a Facebook group for discussing anything tool/DIY related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted Wednesday at 18:22 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:22 Tamper means exactly that the lid has come off something, or if hwired the cable may be damaged hkc will normally verbally tell you the fault "tamper zone 3" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted Wednesday at 19:08 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:08 44 minutes ago, Eugene's DIY Den said: So should it specify zone number, name, followed by type of alarm triggering event? I'll check if this actually does happen and report back. If it doesn't, does it mean I have detailed alarm event reporting turned off in the menu somewhere? My alarm normally faults on the day everyone goes out (as we get to door) or heat is a problem , original wiring was loft and PSU can't take intense heat lol failed yesterday Galaxy dimension was bullet proof PSU transformer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted Wednesday at 19:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:12 3 minutes ago, al-yeti said: PSU can't take intense heat as I said to the postman today, 20 is plenty... 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted Wednesday at 19:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:12 If its a pir in a shed that isn't a great idea 1 Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene's DIY Den Posted Thursday at 16:04 Author Share Posted Thursday at 16:04 (edited) 21 hours ago, PeterJames said: Tamper means exactly that the lid has come off something, or if hwired the cable may be damaged hkc will normally verbally tell you the fault "tamper zone 3" Yes, I just confirmed that. Edited Thursday at 16:04 by Eugene's DIY Den Quote Talking Tools, a Facebook group for discussing anything tool/DIY related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene's DIY Den Posted Thursday at 16:09 Author Share Posted Thursday at 16:09 20 hours ago, james.wilson said: If its a pir in a shed that isn't a great idea Can I use a double knock option on the same zone to only trigger an alarm after several operations of the PIR? Quote Talking Tools, a Facebook group for discussing anything tool/DIY related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted Thursday at 16:42 Share Posted Thursday at 16:42 32 minutes ago, Eugene's DIY Den said: Can I use a double knock option on the same zone to only trigger an alarm after several operations of the PIR? You can, but you shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted Thursday at 17:52 Share Posted Thursday at 17:52 1 hour ago, Eugene's DIY Den said: Can I use a double knock option on the same zone to only trigger an alarm after several operations of the PIR? HKC have a wireless Dualtech now its much better for hostile environments like sheds and garages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted Thursday at 20:15 Share Posted Thursday at 20:15 3 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: You can, but you shouldn't. agreed its an awful option and should never be used If its wired use a dt, if rf use the hkc dt or better still dont use space protection in a shed Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted Thursday at 22:34 Share Posted Thursday at 22:34 6 hours ago, Eugene's DIY Den said: Can I use a double knock option on the same zone to only trigger an alarm after several operations of the PIR? Doesn't work well for fa 6 hours ago, Eugene's DIY Den said: Can I use a double knock option on the same zone to only trigger an alarm after several operations of the PIR? Hkc pir won't trigger as fast as normal standard pirs might be better option or the wireless as said above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted Thursday at 23:00 Share Posted Thursday at 23:00 25 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Hkc pir won't trigger as fast as normal standard pirs as in more stable or slow? Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted Friday at 03:05 Share Posted Friday at 03:05 4 hours ago, james.wilson said: as in more stable or slow? Hkc pirs are stable plus they don't trigger on just a slight movement , not sure how to describe it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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