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Hi. I have an Acorn Control Panel installed in my garage block from 1986 which apart from changed rechargeable batteries is still going strong. I have replaced the external bell box with a new box and sounder but the bell time is addressed by resistors and links that you cut on the PCB in the panel. Has anyone got a copy of the installation instructions from one of these very old panels. It was originally a Shorrock installation.

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Hi Chris

 

Are you sure that Acorn is the brand? 

 

In any case, we cannot give out installation instructions here. only user ones 

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4 hours ago, Chris Covell said:

Hi. I have an Acorn Control Panel installed in my garage block from 1986 which apart from changed rechargeable batteries is still going strong. I have replaced the external bell box with a new box and sounder but the bell time is addressed by resistors and links that you cut on the PCB in the panel. Has anyone got a copy of the installation instructions from one of these very old panels. It was originally a Shorrock installation.

Thanks

Chris

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20 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

Shorrock and Acorn. Hmm, makes me recall some really old 2 zone key switch thing?

Model 76 / 77

 

Those had links for bell delay etc 

 

The old da for code changing was the old wire links used to be interesting to

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1 hour ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

Shorrock and Acorn. Hmm, makes me recall some really old 2 zone key switch thing?

Acorn makes me recall Acorn Antiques, there is a company Essex way (Clacton I think) called Acorn Alarms, the bloke doesn't believe in connecting bell tamper circuits up because they go off for no aparrent reason.

I dread to think what his installs are like 

 

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3 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

Shorrock and Acorn. Hmm, makes me recall some really old 2 zone key switch thing?

 

Horrible tan colour front 

 

Do remember having the instructions for them once


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This is a picture of the panel - made by a company in Cornwall. Looked after, cared for and cleaned and working as the day it was put in... as it stands the bell output would sound continuously as the old sounder had a SAB or similar that timed out after 15 minutes.

There are a series of resistors and links that set the exit/entry time, the bell time and the auto reset... It isnt clear which to cut for the bell time, hence the original question.

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8 minutes ago, Chris Covell said:

This is a picture of the panel - made by a company in Cornwall. Looked after, cared for and cleaned and working as the day it was put in... as it stands the bell output would sound continuously as the old sounder had a SAB or similar that timed out after 15 minutes.

 

What tat have you purchased that does not have a cut off timer ?

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7 hours ago, PeterJames said:

Hi Chris

 

Are you sure that Acorn is the brand? 

 

In any case, we cannot give out installation instructions here. only user ones 

Not even for this old thing?

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12 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Not even for this old thing?

I dont make the rules..........well okay I do, but only some of them.........well okay this one in particular was one of mine..... but it is for good reason and all the mods agreed 

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If the new external bell you have has a cut off timer then why mess about cutting resistors?

Or have you fitted an equivalently aged C type without an SAB module now, for some odd reason?

Oh that is the beige box I was thinking of yer.

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1 hour ago, PeterJames said:

I dont make the rules..........well okay I do, but only some of them.........well okay this one in particular was one of mine..... but it is for good reason and all the mods agreed 

Yeah I get you 

 

But there needs adjustment to alarms from certain era lol

 

Surley a.single page showing bell links won't matter 

 

Ah forget it lol

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Morning - some kind person has sent me a scanned document which is of the typed out installation and instructions which is just 2 sides of A4 showing the links to cut etc. The new bell box is  Deltabell plus, but my local supplier said that he thinks the deltabell, would stop after 15 mins anyway but should sort the links out the make sure the panel cuts off and resets.

The panel is simple and very reliable and built to last so not changing it! Man date was Feb 1985 according to its sticker inside ... not many 35 year old panels still going

9 hours ago, al-yeti said:

Yeah I get you 

 

But there needs adjustment to alarms from certain era lol

 

Surley a.single page showing bell links won't matter 

 

Ah forget it lol

Thanks for your thought here - alot of other panel install/user instructions  you can get as pdfs easily by searching the web, even the installation ones are fairly easy to get for Scantronic etc.

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It's the bell that needs the cut off timer, it just became standard that all equipment would have the timer built in for reducing noise pollution.

Even if the panel continues to provide a bell trigger output the bell would ignore it until removed and reapplied. Unless there is some rearm function as part of this then I'd still say leave it alone myself.

It's part of our guidelines not to provide engineers manuals here, not only from a security perspective but copyright issues. What other sites distribute is up to them.

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1 hour ago, Chris Covell said:

Morning - some kind person has sent me a scanned document which is of the typed out installation and instructions which is just 2 sides of A4 showing the links to cut etc.

 

as normal, you got better advice for free on here

 

1 hour ago, Chris Covell said:

 The new bell box is  Deltabell plus, but my local supplier said that he thinks the deltabell, would stop after 15 mins anyway but should sort the links out the make sure the panel cuts off and resets.

 

than here where you spent £

 

1 hour ago, Chris Covell said:

The panel is simple and very reliable and built to last so not changing it! Man date was Feb 1985 according to its sticker inside ... not many 35 year old panels still going

 

There's loads of old crap out there, often the the alarm controls are decades older than everything else in the house.

You can do what you want with it but are unlikely to find many people willing to work with it.

 

1 hour ago, Chris Covell said:

Thanks for your thought here - alot of other panel install/user instructions  you can get as pdfs easily by searching the web, even the installation ones are fairly easy to get for Scantronic etc.

 

Gosh who'd have thought stuff produced in PDF formats is readily available to anybody....

 

1 hour ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

It's part of our guidelines not to provide engineers manuals here, not only from a security perspective but copyright issues. What other sites distribute is up to them.

 

years ago solicitors where threatening to sue TSI over there manuals being on here, thats the main reason why we don't share 'em


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1 hour ago, MrHappy said:

 

Gosh who'd have thought stuff produced in PDF formats is readily available to anybody....

 

Being Autisitc - Mr Happy, I dont take sarcasm well - just saying!

 

Just asking for help on this post as I was stuck.

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Chris Covell said:

 

Being Autisitc - Mr Happy, I dont take sarcasm well - just saying!

 

Just asking for help on this post as I was stuck.

 

 

Ok , but reality this panel is now an antique and junk to most 

 

But great for DIY while it works perhaps

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1 hour ago, Chris Covell said:

Being Autisitc - Mr Happy, I dont take sarcasm well - just saying!

 

equality... If you was a one legged, lesbian, black, midget you'd get no different treatment from me

 

1 hour ago, Chris Covell said:

Just asking for help on this post as I was stuck.

 

assuming your an adult, you should have the ability to understand over the length of your life the world changes slowly significantly.

 

eg in 1986 if I wanted an instruction book for alarm panel I'd have to telephone the manufacturer & they might have been kind enough to send one in the post.

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30 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

equality... If you was a one legged, lesbian, black, midget you'd get no different treatment from me

 

 

assuming your an adult, you should have the ability to understand over the length of your life the world changes slowly significantly.

 

eg in 1986 if I wanted an instruction book for alarm panel I'd have to telephone the manufacturer & they might have been kind enough to send one in the post.

In those days you would get it quite quick aswell 

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1 hour ago, al-yeti said:

In those days you would get it quite quick aswell 

 

because RM had really fast sherpa vans & no tat from ebay....


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