Cahnufc Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Hi, I have a ScanTronic 9651 installed and all working fine, but the cover flap on the keypad (9941) has broken off and my toddler likes to go and press the buttons! I’ve had a look through the installation guide, but I’m puzzled on what process I would follow to replace the keypad, avoiding tamper alarms etc. Can anyone help or is it a case of getting the pro’s in? thanks Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Hi Carl, you will need to know the engineer number - are you in contact with your original installer or did you install it yourself / inherit the system with a new house? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cahnufc Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 It’s a new build, so I know who installed it and I _think_ I have the engineer code in the paperwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Cahnufc said: It’s a new build, so I know who installed it and I _think_ I have the engineer code in the paperwork. If you got code then depends on a how confident you are , most of us would do it all live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 It is unlikely the engineer code would be written down - except - when a builder puts it in I suppose. Once you think you've found it, enter it on the keypad, you *might* have to proceed it with zero, e.g 0 + code (so you're entering 5 digits in total) but try without first. If it says 'INSTALLER MODE' on the screen, you've got the engineer code! Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cahnufc Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 Thanks-I’ll give that a try. Just out of interest (and if I’m not that confident ;-) ), what kind of ball park cost should I be looking at to get a pro to replace the keypad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 It will really vary by area and competence, an SSAIB / NSI installer will quite properly charge in the region of £300 I imagine. However, if you were to use a non-approved firm (this does not mean they will do a bad job) it could be half that. I would certainly allow for an absolute minimum of £140-150. But, by changing it to a 9943 keypad you can stop using codes and use plastic fobs, which is a nice upgrade (you don't have to alter anything on the main unit) and you'll never have to open the keypad flap again! Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 57 minutes ago, Cahnufc said: Thanks-I’ll give that a try. Just out of interest (and if I’m not that confident ;-) ), what kind of ball park cost should I be looking at to get a pro to replace the keypad? Local house basher ? £80-£150 Labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, datadiffusion said: It will really vary by area and competence, an SSAIB / NSI installer will quite properly charge in the region of £300 I imagine. Imagine that, I wish I could charge that much LOL, closer to the £150.00 for an NSI Gold here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 £150 including the keypad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: £150 including the keypad? Inc the flap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I would charge the RKP out at £75 plus 2 hours labour (but I would include 4 fobs); more if I need to crash the system (although if you're lucky you can default only the codes). I expected approved to be much more TBH. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: I would charge the RKP out at £75 plus 2 hours labour (but I would include 4 fobs); more if I need to crash the system (although if you're lucky you can default only the codes). I expected approved to be much more TBH. You £99 brigade lot £59.99 for defaulting £cost of keypad £79.99 for keypad changeover including fobs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, datadiffusion said: I would charge the RKP out at £75 plus 2 hours labour (but I would include 4 fobs); more if I need to crash the system (although if you're lucky you can default only the codes). I expected approved to be much more TBH. No just greener, its only a flap broken so why change the whole keypad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 You've got a supply of spare flaps? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: You've got a supply of spare flaps? No he means charge them full price regardless , but only for flap and keep new keypad part in a box somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Nice one Rodders 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cahnufc Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 Thanks everyone. Turns out that the code on the paperwork is the ‘job number’ and not the installer code. As everything works perfectly, and it’s just the plastic flap that’s come off, it’s going to be hard to justify £150 so I guess it’s going to have to be something I live with for now. I still have the flap, may see if I can fix the hinge somehow when I get some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Buy a complete panel kit for £50 + VAT just for the flap then https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/security-control-panels-c-36_102/110-input-zone-small-c-36_102_101/scantronic-9651pd41-grade-2-8-zone-panel-with-keypad-p-3360.html 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, datadiffusion said: Buy a complete panel kit for £50 + VAT just for the flap then https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/security-control-panels-c-36_102/110-input-zone-small-c-36_102_101/scantronic-9651pd41-grade-2-8-zone-panel-with-keypad-p-3360.html Then resell used keypad with panel on eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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