November 19, 20187 yr comment_480677 Some time ago, I was directed to this site http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/ronj/shs.html when asking about an alarm panel schematic, I am in the process of building a panel from this website, however, I was wondering if anyone had a schematic I can use to make an SAB module, or bell module, or even if they have one would be able to get a photo of its PCB tracks, and components, so I could have a go at tracing them back out. I have an idea for a circuit, its the Ni-Cd battery charging bit I'm unsure of, any help would be much appreciated. I have included a photo of a CMOS LED flasher I made, this could be the comfort LEDs of the bell box, Gabs Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 19, 20187 yr comment_480678 I doubt a picture of an SAB module would be much help, most are painted and you wouldn't be able to work out the traces. I also wouldn't expect for the alarm you are making you need to go into that much depth either. This is a circuit with some basic components (including my favourite the 555) that you may want to look at for a charging circuit. http://www.edutek.ltd.uk/Binaries/Circuits/Li-ion_battery_charger.pdf The Op-Amp need 3V head minimum, so if your charging a 7.2V NiCd on a 12Vdc supply you will be fine to adjust the values to suit. I assume you used a CD4069 Hex Inverter chip for your flasher? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480678 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 20, 20187 yr comment_480680 9 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I assume you used a CD4069 Hex Inverter chip for your flasher? I would have gone with a 4017 mono stable everything built in Did have a SAB diagram somewhere will have a look www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480680 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 20, 20187 yr comment_480685 11 hours ago, Nova-Security said: I would have gone with a 4017 mono stable everything built in You mean 555 timer? Coupled to a 4017 if you needed 3-10 scrolling LED's, like Night Rider effect. I ask because i would have used a 555 and CR network for and astable, it's such a useful IC to have in your parts bin. 10K, 10K, 47uF in the CR network is pretty close to 1Hz, handy values to have when your breadboarding stuff out. Sometimes it's fun to use what you have around. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480685 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 20, 20187 yr comment_480686 id go 555 too, but its what I know securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480686 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 20, 20187 yr comment_480687 1 hour ago, sixwheeledbeast said: You mean 555 timer? Coupled to a 4017 if you needed 3-10 scrolling LED's, like Night Rider effect. I ask because i would have used a 555 and CR network for and astable, it's such a useful IC to have in your parts bin. 10K, 10K, 47uF in the CR network is pretty close to 1Hz, handy values to have when your breadboarding stuff out. Sometimes it's fun to use what you have around. My typo meant 4047 Could do it with a 555 if you could get the mark/space ratio equal, one LED to + rail the other to - Edited November 20, 20187 yr by Nova-Security www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480687 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 20, 20187 yr Author comment_480688 22 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I doubt a picture of an SAB module would be much help, most are painted and you wouldn't be able to work out the traces. I also wouldn't expect for the alarm you are making you need to go into that much depth either. This is a circuit with some basic components (including my favourite the 555) that you may want to look at for a charging circuit. http://www.edutek.ltd.uk/Binaries/Circuits/Li-ion_battery_charger.pdf The Op-Amp need 3V head minimum, so if your charging a 7.2V NiCd on a 12Vdc supply you will be fine to adjust the values to suit. I assume you used a CD4069 Hex Inverter chip for your flasher? Thanks for the reply. I actually used a CMOS 4001 chip, and it worked pretty well. I was thinking of using a betray like this: https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/coin-button-rechargeable-batteries/0525815/ bit safer than a Lithium one. 12 hours ago, Nova-Security said: I would have gone with a 4017 mono stable everything built in Did have a SAB diagram somewhere will have a look Thanks, I'd appreciate that, I have a basic circuit design, just not sure of it at the moment. Edited November 20, 20187 yr by Gabs Spelling Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480688 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 20, 20187 yr comment_480689 55 minutes ago, james.wilson said: id go 555 too, but its what I know Everyone from our age, although I might be older I doubt they teach it much now Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480689 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 20, 20187 yr Author comment_480690 got these two photos of a very old one I have, but its not brilliant, that's why I'm setting myself the challenge to design and make a new one Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480690 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 20, 20187 yr comment_480691 Revann Electronics ? Mr Veritas God Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42517-sab-module/#findComment-480691 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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