Challenger 5

[john.lightbody 0]

Hi, have old Challenger 5 home alarm system in house, worked a treat last 20 years, power cut the other day and it's went haywire?! Code no longer works and it just sets itself off... Trying to get user manual if at all possible pls?? 

Edited August 19, 2017 by john.lightbody

[sixwheeledbeast 457]

I assume it needs a service and a new battery, that's if no ones looked at it in 20 years.

[john.lightbody 0]

Not been serviced, never had too, worked splendidly for all these years. Has had just 2 battery changes and the current one is dead, but since power cut last week once power came on it set off, code not working to turn off.... 

Edited August 19, 2017 by john.lightbody

[Rulland 27]

Duff battery due to lack of routine maintenance etc has probably knackered the charging circuit and the pcb, it's had a good innings though!-more luck than anything else I would hazard a guess.

[MrHappy 1,622]

look gardtec ish ?

 

power it down,  restart it with no battery it if doesn't start with all the tampers close & fuses intact its knacked

[james.wilson 707]

I thought that g3xx looking 

[norman 1,051]

59 minutes ago, john.lightbody said:

Not been serviced, never had too, worked splendidly for all these years. 

Do you service your car?

[james.wilson 707]

22 minutes ago, norman said:

Do you service your car?

no, no point it worked fine for years till it broke, I did put new batteries in the remote tho

but I doubt anything is trouble free at that age, security systems are expected to work for ever with no tlc. What else has the same?

[norman 1,051]

Sundials

[james.wilson 707]

true, but you dont expect one to protect you and yours. Its a recurring thing, its been great for years but I didn't know id need it etc

[datadiffusion 609]

1 hour ago, MrHappy said:

look gardtec ish ?

 

Looks more like the one-zone keyswitch panels I sometimes see (badged as Tunstall, presumably monitored via the existing carelink) & I imagine sold as £800 'extras' on 1990s retirement flats.

[james.wilson 707]

you would know

it does look gardtech 300 ish in a different plastic

[PeterJames 649]

12 hours ago, norman said:

Sundials

I dont know, this one worked fine until about the fifteenth century then it started losing time.

[MrHappy 1,622]

Looking at the OP's avatar....

 

Sun?

 

Scotland?

 

Lol,

[datadiffusion 609]

Duh! It's like the 00s yeah, just rig up a nice bargain shop £4.99 10w LED flood and then your sundial works again, simples yeah?

[sixwheeledbeast 457]

Providing the lamp has a day night sensor, yeah.

[FASTCAR 5]

I think its a stripped back version of the C+K Active 5 , sold through Wickes in the 1990's.

 

 

Edited March 10 by sixwheeledbeast

[MrHappy 1,622]

On 20/08/2017 at 15:44, FASTCAR said:

I think its a stripped back version of the C+K Active 5 , sold through Wickes in the 1990's.

 

 

 

I assume "challenger" to be CEF ?

 

They've had rebranded C&K securitech in the past, I can't recall ever seeing the plastics before ?

Edited March 10 by sixwheeledbeast

[datadiffusion 609]

Yes if you google Challenger 5, like a sad c**t would, you come back to here but ten years ago where Wickes is mentioned...

 

Plastics are deffo the same as the oddity Tunstall keyswitch panel I keep seeing on my rounds. It doesn't have a single indicator on it,

just a keyswitch and might have the word 'ambassador'. Never seen in anything older than mid 1990s, usually right next to this type

of more modern residential care panel;

 

 

As before I assume it's an overpriced 'intruder' granny robbing add-on to carelink

Edited August 20, 2017 by datadiffusion

[al-yeti 501]

24 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

Yes if you google Challenger 5, like a sad c**t would, you come back to here but ten years ago where Wickes is mentioned...

 

Plastics are deffo the same as the oddity Tunstall keyswitch panel I keep seeing on my rounds. It doesn't have a single indicator on it,

just a keyswitch and might have the word 'ambassador'. Never seen in anything older than mid 1990s, usually right next to this type

of more modern residential care panel;

 

 

As before I assume it's an overpriced 'intruder' granny robbing add-on to carelink

Plastic alarm monkey 

[john.lightbody 0]

On 19/08/2017 at 20:50, norman said:

Do you service your car?

Both of them and my motorbike, how is that relevant though?! Oh wait a minute, was that an attempt at sarcasm..... What's to service on an alarm system, considering been working every night without fail for 20 years until power cut other week there.... 

[Rulland 27]

'Until', that's the operative word chap

Edited August 26, 2017 by Rulland
Typo

[norman 1,051]

1 hour ago, john.lightbody said:

Both of them and my motorbike, how is that relevant though?! Oh wait a minute, was that an attempt at sarcasm..... What's to service on an alarm system, considering been working every night without fail for 20 years until power cut other week there.... 

Why bother servicing your car? 

[MrHappy 1,622]

2 hours ago, john.lightbody said:

Both of them and my motorbike, how is that relevant though?! Oh wait a minute, was that an attempt at sarcasm..... What's to service on an alarm system, considering been working every night without fail for 20 years until power cut other week there.... 

 

Oh dear "Jock McTightSporran" is asking a forum which mainly populated alarm monkeys why their employed.

 

What goes wrong with your simple house alarm?

 

Well there will be at least 2 battery's which don't last forever, reed contacts which will eventually fail (open or closed) or cause false alarm.... same for the relays within powered sensors

 

Checking a bells only system annually as per BS/EN ensures they work correctly (think MOT) if you where a paying subscriber you could have your system in working  order rather spending your spare time hunting down a manual for the old tat of an alarm on your wall.

 

However you pays your money & make your choice,

 

Power down the "skip fodder" of an alarm system & restart it on mains power only, with all tamper & lids close it made take you code

 

If not buy  something like a veritas 8 & new battery & have a bash at sort it

Or find a local alarm co. (proper ones might only do the work if their maintaining it) & ask for cost of them updating the system

 

 

[PeterJames 649]

7 hours ago, norman said:

Why bother servicing your car? 

I reckon it will be fine for twenty years until one morning when it doesnt start, think of the money you'll save