MrHappy Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RayPooley said: My postcode is on my website. the cafe, Edited August 14, 2017 by MrHappy Mr Veritas God Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayPooley Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 Just now, sixwheeledbeast said: Did I follow this correctly? A grand for that shoddy work? Movement detectors are designed to detect people walking across them, yes they can pick up other things due to how they work but that's what they are designed to do. You shouldn't be expecting a PIR or DT to detect this type of incident There is more to alarms than sticking coloured wires in holes, understanding how detection works and what type you need for the environment is all part of the job. If you want to detect the window being put in, I suggest using a method capable of this. Also to your last point an auto dialler maybe fast but it's certainly not a secure method. Cheers. I don't think any approach is entirely secure. Not even a night watchman. But this isn't The Bank Of England we are talking about. There is a trade off between cost and risk. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 28 minutes ago, RayPooley said: Thanks GalaxyGuy. Now that's an answer. I appreciate it. So you getting the stuff? As nothing else will work 29 minutes ago, petrolhead said: Monitored cctv signalling on movement on the internal cams would have done what you want though, the monitoring station would call you to alert you to the incident. If you had external detection and a pa speaker they might have warned them off. But he won't pay for that, why pay after couple of years he can get familiar with different gear and then chavs your uncle , sorted? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayPooley Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, al-yeti said: So you getting the stuff? As nothing else will work What stuff? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 All sorted , good to know you found a solution Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayPooley Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, al-yeti said: All sorted , good to know you found a solution Yes. This has been very helpful. Cleared up my initial question vis a vis the wiring. But I do need to take a look at the "breaking glass" option as well. I will be testing before implementing the final choice of sensor. Either on a bench or perhaps replace one sensor and test in situ. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Had nothing but issues with those Honeywell detectors the older ones were better IMO. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Lwillis said: the older ones were better IMO. +1 way, way better Mr Veritas God Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Lwillis said: Had nothing but issues with those Honeywell detectors the older ones were better IMO. did you enable the Doppler bit only? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyGuy Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lwillis said: Had nothing but issues with those Honeywell detectors the older ones were better IMO. What type of problems ? Anti mask ? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41484-from-unknown-pir-to-dual-tec/page/8/#findComment-467303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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