datadiffusion Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 28 minutes ago, Wynter Isabelle said: I'm not saying £250 is high or not justified, I'm just saying considering the kit is only £200 that leaves £250 Minus insurance Minus SSAIB Minus transport Minus time taken to visit you and quote Minus time to do paperwork afterwards Minus wages for other staff (perhaps) Minus product training etc... attended at own expense And if its done in 4 hours it really will be chucked in. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Most reputable companies would not be buying their equipment from Ebay. As an installer anything we supply and install is provided with a warranty, if it goes wrong we have to come back and replace the bits that fail, which is expensive. Therefore it is very risky buying stuff from an unknown source like Ebay. You could be buying refurbished, or repaired, or returned equipment. I had a customer that used to supply their own batteries every year for a wireless system that we maintained, because they were £1.50 cheaper on ebay than the ones we supplied. That was until they started giving him low battery faults the day before he was due to go on holiday, less than six months after we had replaced them for him. He ended up paying far more, a call-out fee and our batteries at £1.50 ea more (buy cheap buy twice). Our batteries are well within their shelf life from a reputable supplier and warranted by us, not fake copies or old stock. Sometimes buying stuff on ebay can save cash, but I would not buy stuff that I needed to rely on from Ebay . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynter Isabelle Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 I know all that, we do it in my line of work... Council maintenance Our hourly rate for electricians is £35.75 Even if you used that rate of £35.75 that gives it as no more than 7hrs of labour assuming £250 labour What's the issue here? It must be pretty hard for a ssaib registered alarm company to mess up such a basic alarm system in an empty premises... I think his labour seems fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'd have expected the cost price of a spark to be higher than £35.75 never mind the charge out price. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynter Isabelle Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Companies also sell through eBay, anyway that was an example. I'm just saying he's obviously getting them cheap and if he's happy to give a 12mth warranty then any come backs is on him to sort. He's been around for years locally anyway http://www.vogalarms.com/ That's his site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yeah, I'd stick to wireless... 1 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynter Isabelle Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Certainly not for us, our hourly rate for tradesman is calculated each year. For our public buildings ie schools, community centres etc we charge £35.75 an hour labour and materials +10% And our department makes money at those rates. Cash in hand jobs outside of work, most sparks charge £15-25 an hour in my area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I can't be bothered to work out 35.75 + 10% on the visonic q uote..... All of us on the tools have done it- but why advertise working dangerously ? 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynter Isabelle Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 I've emailed for a quote for a wired system and also if the cameras are branded etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynter Isabelle Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 The DVR & Cameras are Dahua, Monitor brand may vary depending on what the suppliers have in stock. Wired Alarm Option · 1x Castle Euro 46sm Panel with built in text alert facility · 1x Door Contact · 2x Pyronix PIR’s · 1x Panel Battery · 1x Pyronix Delta Bell Plus External Bell Box (Illuminated) · 2x Prox Tags · 1x SSAIB Certificate Cost £535.00 plus VAT Optional speech dialer (if you want the alarm to ring not text) additional £ 125.00 plus VAT Monitoring Options URN Cost £43.49 plus VAT (one off cost to South Wales Police Digi Monitoring (Phoneline only) £150.00 plus VAT per annum and includes 1 Service Visit Or Dual Com Monitoring (Phoneline & GSM) £300.00 plus VAT per annum and includes 2 Service Visits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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