fatman Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hi all, New to the Forums, so apologies if in wring section; mods please move if needed. There's lots of posts slating Yale products, but I can't understand why? Is it because they are ungraded? Or is there another reason I should know (I have one myself!). Sorry if this is a basic question. I searched, but could find nothing saying why they were bad, just that they are! Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 have a look here http://cybergibbons.com/?s=yale&submit=Search 1 securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatman Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 45 minutes ago, james.wilson said: have a look here http://cybergibbons.com/?s=yale&submit=Search Thanks for replying and providing the link. I did have a read; it was mainly referring to the old Yale systems being problematic due to low frequency. I have the 'Easy fit' telecommunicating alarm which uses the same frequency as the Pyronix Enforcer, so I feel a little better now Thanks again for the info. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 still one way wireless tat made in china Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 the freq isn't really the issue with it. 1 securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Frequency is only the transmission, security not related there. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatman Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 minute ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Frequency is only the transmission, security not related there. Oh :/ Sorry I must have misunderstood! As I'm sure you can tell, I am not very knowledgeable about Alarms - in fact, I didn't know there was so much to Alarms until I recently found this Forum! But I am finding it all very interesting! So, sorry to be such a noob but if the frequency isn't the issue with security; please can you explain what is? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, fatman said: Thanks for replying and providing the link. I did have a read; it was mainly referring to the old Yale systems being problematic due to low frequency. I have the 'Easy fit' telecommunicating alarm which uses the same frequency as the Pyronix Enforcer, so I feel a little better now Thanks again for the info. Blagger Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, fatman said: please can you explain what is? Well for starters I believe it is one way wireless. This means the device (your sensor) transmits a message with the hope it gets there (the panel), it may or may not. I also believed the encryption of the signals was either flawed or none existent on these DIY kits? One way is only suited for very very low risk, many installers refuse to install it at all. 1 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatman Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Well for starters I believe it is one way wireless. This means the device (your sensor) transmits a message with the hope it gets there (the panel), it may or may not. I also believed the encryption of the signals was either flawed or none existent on these DIY kits? One way is only suited for very very low risk, many installers refuse to install it at all. Thanks for this really helpful post. I appreciate the explanation too. This makes much more sense now so thanks again. I'm moving house soon, and there is already a wired system in, so I I can get that services and it is working ok, I think I will use that instead! Sorry for another basic question, but would a two way alarm communication between panel and accessories confirming system armed? Can't give 'kudos' on my Mobile for some reason, but will do when on a PC! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40067-whats-wrong-with-yale/#findComment-445505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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