JohnRMoore Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Hi we have a GT490X that occasionally complains of 'low-volts' or something similar. I assume it is the backup battery packing up. I would like to investigate changing the battery myself, or at least put the job out to tender. The alarm is a 'non-maintained' alarm, but has been recently worked on by the original installers ACE. Do I need to request that ACE provide me with the engineer's code? If I do, should I expect that they would do this? Would I be able to change the battery without it, or would I risk setting off an anti-tamper system that I could never reset by just using my normal password? As you can probably tell, I don't even know enough to be sure I'm asking the right questions even. I don't mind paying out but feel a little irritated that I might be tied to ACE. How should I proceed to ensure I get a fair quote on this job? Any help much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 They would be able to give you a one off price for battery change, and perhaps service , no need to sign into a contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 And if you really wanted, they would (should) change the engineer code at that visit to '1234' or similar as part of or as a small addition to the service price. However, they would probably then want nothing further to do with the system, so you would then be on your own. If you don't know what you're doing (and this goes further than 'reading the manual') it might not be such a good idea. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 How should I proceed to ensure I get a fair quote on this job? If your unhappy with the price that "Ace" charge you ring around other local alarm companies, however a one off repair to a domestic bells only alarm might not be of much interest to some firms ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 But dont expect them to simply give out their engineers code as that will leave all their other customers vulnerable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Engineer codes are pretty low tech security in this day when you think about it. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Codes in general are low tech, but why reinvent the wheel? Anything better would have a higher price point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 You shouldn't feel tied to ACE. If you own the panel a one off charge and you can switch. The engineers code is a simple way to provide some security to them and there customers but also importantly yourself. They need to know that only there engineers can program the system, to provide you with the best service possible. It's the same for most alarm companies if you switched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeReddish Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Agreed, I doubt many people would feel secure in the knowledge that anyone could google the default codes and go to town on their alarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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