james.wilson Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Sorry Mark I dont know. I was viewing your contact image on the mobile and then deleted it. Sorry. Can you put it back up please securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark02 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Sorry Mark I dont know. I was viewing your contact image on the mobile and then deleted it. Sorry. Can you put it back up please No probs mate. 22k across outside terminals (Alarm ??) and 10k from right screw to where red wire is. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Yes that contact doesn't have a tamper switch so thats ok. I would insulate the resistors though. On the pir there is no need for them to be that long securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark02 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Yes that contact doesn't have a tamper switch so thats ok. I would insulate the resistors though. On the pir there is no need for them to be that long That's great. Yeah the wiring needs tidying up but it was only for bench test. I have some really small heat shrink I can use when I actually fit everything. Couple of things. Can I heat shrink the whole resistor or is it better to just cover the wires? Also, with the internal sounder (pyronix twin speaker/siren) and external bell (if I fit the external) what happens with the wiring when I'm using EOL. Do I still connect as normal including tamper circuit to pcb or do they also need resistors and omit tamp wires ? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 That's great. Yeah the wiring needs tidying up but it was only for bench test. I have some really small heat shrink I can use when I actually fit everything. Couple of things. Can I heat shrink the whole resistor or is it better to just cover the wires? Id just do the wires else you wont be able to see the colour bands Also, with the internal sounder (pyronix twin speaker/siren) and external bell (if I fit the external) what happens with the wiring when I'm using EOL. Do I still connect as normal including tamper circuit to pcb or do they also need resistors and omit tamp wires ? If you wire the internal tamper into a circuit it will need reistors. The external sounder will use a tamper return and wont securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark02 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Id just do the wires else you wont be able to see the colour bands If you wire the internal tamper into a circuit it will need reistors. The external sounder will use a tamper return and wont The internal speaker siren terminals are T - T - BA - SPX - 12v - 0v . The supplied instructions say tamper shold be connected in series with the system tamper loop. Also says 12v+, 12v- and BA should be wired in parallel with external bellbox (which I probably am not going to use .... local council don't like them). Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Out of curiosity why didnt you use red/ black for power? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark02 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Out of curiosity why didnt you use red/ black for power? Because in the installation manual green and white are shown as power while red/black are alarm circuits (to zones) so I decided to stick to those colours so if I ever have to reference back to installation book it all matched up. I see your point though. It don't seem right does it LOL Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Should have a bought a scantronic 9651 kit. Better budget panel without stupid eol values Or buy the grade 2 door contacts with grey resistors Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I will bookmark thread and over next couple of weeks post back to let you know how I got on and maybe a few install picks. I am sure somebody else might find this handy (unless your an install engineer that fitting alarms comes easy to) Just for an example here is a schematics of one machine I work on. This is a part page and there is another 17 sheets go with it. I have a Pcon 64 fault. Can anyone tell me where the fault lays (possible 3 answers) I am gutted its too small to read but I think if i could read it i would be lost on what pcon 64 ment Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38176-veritas-excel-new-install-eol-question/page/8/#findComment-411922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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