The engineer, with an engineer code can gain access to an armed panel, and thus do what he wants.

Agreed that udl apps = dangerous on mobile devices.

 

But aside from that I am in the school of thought that if the alarm engineer is evil we are fooked anyway.

The engineer, with an engineer code can gain access to an armed panel, and thus do what he wants.

+ip address ?

if configured to allow access when set,

if configured to allow untended access,

if configured w/o a udl code,

the App is little different than udl via a good old fashioned modem, you can choose to make it more secure if required or make it very secure by disabling it.

MrHappy, if those options are available, the person giving the demo of the new panels didn't want to get into my conversation.

The other techs in the room thought it was ok and normal. 

I may be the odd one out.

It is wrong how you say but id its been programmed to allow it then that's down to the config not the panel

It is wrong how you say but id its been programmed to allow it then that's down to the config not the panel

Correct, as with all of our gear how you programme and use the stuff is up to you, just because a panel can break regs does not make it non-compliant, its up to the installer to deal with that.

 

Don't forget, the rules we use here do not apply everywhere.

Very true - and I'm sure this is the same for most panels - although perhaps with some choosing 'EN' at startup prevents it - but on the

I-on at least there are 4 major options freely choosable that make the panel totally non compliant... So don't choose them

There are also times you use these things in non alarm roles.

Yup, one of the local MH homes has a texe prem just for room door and motion monitoring.

 

They didn't go for a full blown 'care' system as all residents are under 40 and able bodied,

so no need for nursecall and indicating.

 

Well, actually, the CQC didn't agree. Hence our good selves

Very true - and I'm sure this is the same for most panels - although perhaps with some choosing 'EN' at startup prevents it - but on the

I-on at least there are 4 major options freely choosable that make the panel totally non compliant... So don't choose them

All our stuff is defaulted to the latest regs, so you actually have to change something to make it non-compliant.