lamplight73 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 The engineer, with an engineer code can gain access to an armed panel, and thus do what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMurphy Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Agreed that udl apps = dangerous on mobile devices. But aside from that I am in the school of thought that if the alarm engineer is evil we are fooked anyway. 30 years of experience, ssaib approved family business. We have a very long list of clients that we are very proud chose to use us. We have never bought out any other company or forced anyone to use us. All of our customers are free to leave us whenever they wish, yet very few ever have. This is down to the fact that we always put our best into every job. http://alarmguard.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 The engineer, with an engineer code can gain access to an armed panel, and thus do what he wants. +ip address ? if configured to allow access when set, if configured to allow untended access, if configured w/o a udl code, the App is little different than udl via a good old fashioned modem, you can choose to make it more secure if required or make it very secure by disabling it. Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamplight73 Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 MrHappy, if those options are available, the person giving the demo of the new panels didn't want to get into my conversation. The other techs in the room thought it was ok and normal. I may be the odd one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It is wrong how you say but id its been programmed to allow it then that's down to the config not the panel securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It is wrong how you say but id its been programmed to allow it then that's down to the config not the panel Correct, as with all of our gear how you programme and use the stuff is up to you, just because a panel can break regs does not make it non-compliant, its up to the installer to deal with that. Don't forget, the rules we use here do not apply everywhere. amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Very true - and I'm sure this is the same for most panels - although perhaps with some choosing 'EN' at startup prevents it - but on the I-on at least there are 4 major options freely choosable that make the panel totally non compliant... So don't choose them So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 There are also times you use these things in non alarm roles. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Yup, one of the local MH homes has a texe prem just for room door and motion monitoring. They didn't go for a full blown 'care' system as all residents are under 40 and able bodied, so no need for nursecall and indicating. Well, actually, the CQC didn't agree. Hence our good selves So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Very true - and I'm sure this is the same for most panels - although perhaps with some choosing 'EN' at startup prevents it - but on the I-on at least there are 4 major options freely choosable that make the panel totally non compliant... So don't choose them All our stuff is defaulted to the latest regs, so you actually have to change something to make it non-compliant. amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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