matthew.brough Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Spending yet another £12000 to MAS to integrate the triggering a relay isn't so attractive. I'm sure there is a reason why texe don't use seeds but most reset software seems to and the only reason the super hero can PM reset codes is because there is no seed. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alterEGO Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I think Matt made the point Adrian. As for seeds, we have technistore and Menvier reset software, both allow me to choose the seed code. But I do agree it's better than nothing. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 but you need to know the seed, but id agree more than 255 seeds would be better securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alterEGO Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 but you need to know the seed, but id agree more than 255 seeds would be better Thats easy if you know the ARC. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergibbons Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 The Technistore seed code might as well not be there. You only need 1 quote/reset code on average to work what the seed is. I think other seeded systems have much longer seed codes. I have a blog, some of which is about alarm security and reverse engineering:http://cybergibbons.com/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergibbons Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'm not sure it's worth the effort trying to protect software. I've seen a few companies try it and they either do it badly (a certain signalling system NV memory programming software just checks for some registry keys, which you can see being checked by procmon), or they do it OK and it causes complaints from genuine users and still someone cracks it and distributes the software anyway. The concept of "registered installer" with most companies is pretty rubbish as well. Not many have turned me down. I have a blog, some of which is about alarm security and reverse engineering:http://cybergibbons.com/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 The Technistore seed code might as well not be there. You only need 1 quote/reset code on average to work what the seed is. I think other seeded systems have much longer seed codes. ATS can have 5 making the possibilities much more www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 The concept of "registered installer" with most companies is pretty rubbish as well. Not many have turned me down. Exactly, which supplier has the balls to turn down a one man band today that could be a bigger customer tomorrow? OK I suspect Matt will answer with UTC, but otherwise...! So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'm not sure it's worth the effort trying to protect software. I've seen a few companies try it and they either do it badlyAgreed. Your just making a carrot for someone to try and crack. Matt why will it cost so much to add this feature to MAS? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Get cg to crack it and use it for free? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35618-texecom-elite-48-part-arm/page/5/#findComment-354968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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