May 14, 201313 yr comment_320523 We have had a few issues with a sliding gate that is pretty much in continuous use. It has been installed for nearly 4 years and in that time we have replaced 3 controller boards, 1 x gearbox and now the pinion has failed with 2 teeth stripped from it. My belief is as the current motor (bpt mec unit) doesn't have a soft stop it is stressing the gearbox and drive. This then fails over time. The unit has a 3 phase 1.5 hp motor. Rather than keep replacing this stuff as imo it isn't upto the duty expected of it, im thinking of replacing it with something else, ideally with soft start and stop etc. Suggestions please? . securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 14, 201313 yr comment_320553 Gate doesn't look to heavy, I would use a FAAC C720, you can set the sow down at any point on open and close, change the speed etc and its 24v Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320553 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 14, 201313 yr Author comment_320556 Its just under a tonne securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320556 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 14, 201313 yr comment_320557 We have had a few issues with a sliding gate that is pretty much in continuous use. It has been installed for nearly 4 years and in that time we have replaced 3 controller boards, 1 x gearbox and now the pinion has failed with 2 teeth stripped from it. My belief is as the current motor (bpt mec unit) doesn't have a soft stop it is stressing the gearbox and drive. This then fails over time. The unit has a 3 phase 1.5 hp motor. Rather than keep replacing this stuff as imo it isn't upto the duty expected of it, im thinking of replacing it with something else, ideally with soft start and stop etc. Suggestions please? . Weve had the same issues with Same kit but single phase motor, its on its 3 recondition! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320557 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 14, 201313 yr Author comment_320560 I think its got more than enough power as the clutch is very low, its the stopping and starting I think that is killing the mechanical side of the unit. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320560 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 14, 201313 yr comment_320562 FAAC C721 does 800kg Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320562 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 14, 201313 yr comment_320580 Try a Nice Runkit 1500 in 24vdc. Should sort it. Costs about 600 quid. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320580 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 14, 201313 yr Author comment_320582 I did think you would say NICE and meant to look at them at ifsec today. Is it up to the duty and weight, its a petrol tanker depot this gate the image shows the gate and workshop only. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320582 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 14, 201313 yr comment_320587 Yeah, the 24vdc motors piddle over the AC ones. Amazing bits of kit. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320587 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 15, 201313 yr comment_320676 I think its got more than enough power as the clutch is very low, its the stopping and starting I think that is killing the mechanical side of the unit.use a Drawbridge must be ready made kit out there, but a way of slowing it near end of travel is using position sensors to kill the motor say 12" from stop so it rolls home without power. then, if it stops short, quick pulses until it completes closing and operates stop sensor, again same idea for fully opening action. the same pulsing circuit could be used to initiate gate movement in either direction. this is a bit more left of center, there is a kit that reduces wear on a/c motors and associated equipment by making them more efficient. in short it alters the mains sign wave effectively to a pulse, removing the lower voltage slope. because the motor is not powered through the whole sign wave, only the highest peak it develops less heat, gives smoother power. saving on motor wear anything up to 70% i know who supplies it - so if needed pm me. Edited May 15, 201313 yr by arfur mo If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34578-gates/#findComment-320676 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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