james.wilson Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I wouldnt totally agree with that. You cant hash paperwork together like that it would show. Plus most approved co's use db's so this is all time stamped and logged It would be an ideal world if all engineers fully knew the regs on the install and paperwork side. However this is rarely if ever the case. I dont know them all off the top of my head. I know what we do and the way we do it. This is obviously in our manuals and trained. But problems arise when an engineer with the best of intentions does something he believes to be correct when it isnt. No-one can change a spec, a work practice etc without authorisation. Its the approval process and ISO for instance that documents all this and puts it in practice securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I wouldnt totally agree with that. You cant hash paperwork together like that it would show. Plus most approved co's use db's so this is all time stamped and logged It would be an ideal world if all engineers fully knew the regs on the install and paperwork side. However this is rarely if ever the case. I dont know them all off the top of my head. I know what we do and the way we do it. This is obviously in our manuals and trained. But problems arise when an engineer with the best of intentions does something he believes to be correct when it isnt. No-one can change a spec, a work practice etc without authorisation. Its the approval process and ISO for instance that documents all this and puts it in practice QFA I couldnt of put it better myself ..... well I could of done but I dont have a brummie accent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatthaplo Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 It would show but if the inspector doesnt look to closely, and excuses can always be made for lack of signatures etc. Not saying that its a good idea or anything. Im a stickler for paperwork myself Work Website: http://www.welch-group.co.uk/ Personal Blog: http://wyatthaplo.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 We're changing from SSAIB to NSI and I must admit the NSI have asked for a lot of things we have never needed to do whilst under SSAIB What sort of things reidy securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb-eye Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Anyone else besides me refused entry to an inspectorate. NACOSS inspected and refused us. We were told to re apply once we met their criteria. Had their been an SSAIB in those days i would have taken that route. Customers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Anyone else besides me refused entry to an inspectorate. nsi gold knocked us back 7/8 years ago. their concern was that we did not show enough proffit on the balance sheet, fee refunded & advised to go silver. Maybe I'm too cynical but the only reason I can currently muster to have gold medal is to silence the critics in an internet forum. Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 nsi gold knocked us back 7/8 years ago. their concern was that we did not show enough proffit on the balance sheet, fee refunded & advised to go silver. Maybe I'm too cynical but the only reason I can currently muster to have gold medal is to silence the critics in an internet forum. And that from an alledgedly not for profit organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Why is that relevant andy? One of the checks Nacoss make is on the stability of the firm. How does that affect the not for profit status of NSI? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 One of the checks Nacoss make is on the stability of the firm. they disliked our sole trader tax accounts, despite there concerns where still here..... Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Why is that relevant andy? One of the checks Nacoss make is on the stability of the firm. How does that affect the not for profit status of NSI? You ever checked their acccounts??12 months ago they didn't even comply with their 'rules' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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