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Main differences from a installation companys POV? Costing etc?

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Main differences from a installation companys POV? Costing etc?

SSAIB are cheaper and will let you get away with more.

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SSAIB are cheaper and will let you get away with more.

Bang on


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For the opposition if you have NSI Gold you get away with less and it costs you more, but as with everything in life you get what you pay for

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SSAIB are cheaper and will let you get away with more.

On the evidence of what we come across that's not exactly true.


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On the evidence of what we come across that's not exactly true.

probably true... we took over a DD243 system from A**l this week - been in for years but could never have actually sent confirmed, user reset all round and some other bits.. I haven't had the full story from the tech yet but it doesn't look good.

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On the evidence of what we come across that's not exactly true.

The accreditation is only as good as the inspector who visits site and depends on his ability to give a ****.

ive seen some nsi gold company installs they dont usually differ from any others but have also seen very poor ones.

its the engineers who work for the outfit that make a difference not the governing body

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The accreditation is only as good as the inspector who visits site and depends on his ability to give a ****.

ive seen some nsi gold company installs they dont usually differ from any others but have also seen very poor ones.

its the engineers who work for the outfit that make a difference not the governing body

I disagree I haven't ever come across a bad inspector in 30 years, and Ive met a few in my time SSAIB and NSI. However, some companies do not play fair and only let the inspector see what they want him too.

Sadly the spirit of the industry is just not there with some companies, we could get grade A inspections everytime if we decided which sites to take the inspector, but we want to know if we are doing something wrong, we want to improve our engineers, surveyors, and we need to be sure that we have interpreted the standards correctly. Usually its the cheapest companies that cut corners (I said usually) they see training, paying for engineers with a brain, and doing the job properly as expensive. The problem as I see it is most of these companies are being run by ex engineers with no business acumen and unfortunately it devalues the industry for us all, makes it harder to compete when A.N.Other is half the price of you especially when he has the same badge as you. This is why whenever I come across something wrong I report it to the inspectorate, it is the only defence the good guys have

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I didn't think you'd been doing this 30 years?


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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I didn't think you'd been doing this 30 years?

25 or or so then

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The accreditation is only as good as the inspector who visits site and depends on his ability to give a ****.

ive seen some nsi gold company installs they dont usually differ from any others but have also seen very poor ones.

its the engineers who work for the outfit that make a difference not the governing body

Hence 'the badge' proves nothing.


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I disagree I haven't ever come across a bad inspector in 30 years, and Ive met a few in my time SSAIB and NSI. However, some companies do not play fair and only let the inspector see what they want him too.

Sadly the spirit of the industry is just not there with some companies, we could get grade A inspections everytime if we decided which sites to take the inspector, but we want to know if we are doing something wrong, we want to improve our engineers, surveyors, and we need to be sure that we have interpreted the standards correctly. Usually its the cheapest companies that cut corners (I said usually) they see training, paying for engineers with a brain, and doing the job properly as expensive. The problem as I see it is most of these companies are being run by ex engineers with no business acumen and unfortunately it devalues the industry for us all, makes it harder to compete when A.N.Other is half the price of you especially when he has the same badge as you. This is why whenever I come across something wrong I report it to the inspectorate, it is the only defence the good guys have

QFA, full of idiots who just want to say they are a director rather than an engineer. I don't understand it myself, if you are still driving around in a battered old van after god knows how many years and coming out with less than I would pay an engineer, what is the point?

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... if you are still driving around in a battered old van after god knows how many years ...

You don't venture down to that shithole called London then?


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25 or or so then

Crikey, still longer than I thought, I stumbled into this industry c1994. When did you work @ Royal Mail?

Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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You don't venture down to that shithole called London then?

No, I don't have a passport.

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I did all this on V I cant remember off the top of my head my late teens early twenties are all a blurr now

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will, regardless of wether you have a NSI or SSAIB bagde or not your require the will to run your co. properly,

a significant amount of time & money is required to achieve & maintain either,

Over the say the last rolling month new bussines which 100% definitely required aproval is just 3 jobs (2 URN's & a G2X)


busy twisting coloured wires & hanging off ladders....

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will, regardless of wether you have a NSI or SSAIB bagde or not your require the will to run your co. properly,

a significant amount of time & money is required to achieve & maintain either,

Over the say the last rolling month new bussines which 100% definitely required aproval is just 3 jobs (2 URN's & a G2X)

A pretty fair summary


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A pretty fair summary

Ever since I started using the electronic version of the local chip wrapper to vent my spleen on, my TSI content almost reasonable & balanced.....

Whilst other industrys may produce almost over night success stories with Overfinches & Mansions the professional security industry despite having to jump though a number of hoops is oftend the poor relation IMHO.


busy twisting coloured wires & hanging off ladders....

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So jump ship quick then?

Btw, i agree the badge matters not, it just licenses you to install at that level. its the quality of your staff that make it a professional install, and the depth of your resources. All trade members here are, imo, at or near the top, hence they sought this forum out and chose to give time to the forum. ssaib or nsi matters not as they both grant the same rewards. Personally im a ssaib installer, and i choose to insult major nsi installers, as their work standards are clearly inferior. yet i feel certain there are nsi installers in the same boat as me, looking at the general quality of ssaib installs that they come across and thinking, htf did they ever let that bunch ever install police response.

Go with the name that tickles your fancy imo, and good luck

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We're changing from SSAIB to NSI and I must admit the NSI have asked for a lot of things we have never needed to do whilst under SSAIB


Hey Ho, Lets Go

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Asking the sub to produce a cert for an existing spur?


busy twisting coloured wires & hanging off ladders....

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Unless they ain't ringing in the 1st place the badge I've got is not preventing me from doing any systems we propose.


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We have and that's why we're changing


Hey Ho, Lets Go

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