morgan306 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Stal,totally the same at my branch,you need a very good reason to take the laptop out. I usually try and get it to upload/program big jobs. i think it would be much better if we had laptops each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Stal,totally the same at my branch,you need a very good reason to take the laptop out. I usually try and get it to upload/program big jobs. i think it would be much better if we had laptops each. Interesting thread this. I'll throw in my 10 cents worth as a sometime (long-time, but now ex-) IT manager. A laptop is a tool, just like a screwdriver, multimeter, battery tester, whatever. To have one you need to justify it; cost vs benefit. Not to mention the inconvenience of lugging it about. It's a general purpose bit of kit that can, potentially, do many things. But what does it really cost? That's what management are quite rightly looking at. In my experience, a basic laptop costs at least 5 grand a year to the business! Given that, can you justify it, or would specialist tools (or even specialists on call) be a better bet? Footnote: I worked for 6 years in a "consultancy" business where using laptops was considered a "no-brainer". Until one subsidiary looked at PDA's and got rid of almost all of the laptops very quickly indeed. The reality was that they had become "status symbols" rather than "tools of the trade". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 As someone who visits/works with Installers and/or engineers on a regular basis the issue of laptops is something that comes up regularly. I can't comment on Intruder, i'll leave that to others but with regards to Access Control then yes, any engineer fitting it should, in my mind, have a laptop. Now, by Access Control i don't mean keypads/standalones etc. How can anybody set up and test, configure and commission a software system without one?? You can't assume the customer will already have a PC either. As Andy said in earlier post, Perhaps a PDA will more than suffice but depending on the type of work, a laptop is sometimes necessary. As a very loose generalisation, i find that the bigger the company, the less chance the engineers will have a lappy. Some of the Nationals won't even give a lappy to the senior engineers and system commissioners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 flippin heck if it costs your business 5 grand every year it must have bells and whistles on it. i can't see how it could cost that much to buy and setup with software for 1 laptop 10 but 1 If you can't see then you either aren't doing it right or aren't counting it right. The hardware costs are almost irrelevant. How much time and money do you spend on your screwdrivers compared to your laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparky169 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 If you can't see then you either aren't doing it right or aren't counting it right. The hardware costs are almost irrelevant. How much time and money do you spend on your screwdrivers compared to your laptop? depends what i am doing but if i would say screwdrivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerabloke Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 so will i ...... screwdrivers there said it Eucam Security Systems 0845 4630 746 www.eucam.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparky169 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 im not saying that engineers that mistreat the machines should have them but employers tend to know which engineers are trust worthy and which ones arn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 well my 2p our engineers dont have them. It would be another thing that got broken or nicked. The 2 senior engineers have them and we have replaced 1 3 times and the other once in the last 2 years Why has it been replaced James? If its from being dropped or lost or stolen, then the engineer should replace it, if my drills(supplied by company) were stolen from the back of my van then I would expect to pay for them. The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quasar Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 if its company vehicle i'd expect it to be covered by company insurance if i dropped it i'd pay btw ENGINEERS laptop should be fit for purpose toughbooks are, fragile cheap dells are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Why has it been replaced James?If its from being dropped or lost or stolen, then the engineer should replace it, if my drills(supplied by company) were stolen from the back of my van then I would expect to pay for them. thats breff is a dam fine idea. But if the lads replace them its rarly the same thing that got nicked/broken. With all our tools i take the tack if it wears out or it gets 'accidently' broken ill replace it. If it gets nicked i wont. But last one that got nicked wasnt out of the van, he left it downlaoding a panel and went outside for a fag. Thought the site was safe. It wasnt Agree wth the commisioning of access cant see how you could without one, same with fire. But intruder as a rule its rarly used. I have one and dont use it as much as i could, as i gotta get it out the bag, rember to have charged it, plug it in elc etc. Im obviusly just far too lazy securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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