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As you can see Benny, James has covered all the points in your post quite comprehensively, please do not hesitate to post again if you need further clarification on any matters that may require the experts advice!.

Killjoy.

Schizophrenia perhaps.

Feck me Yoda is alive and well, what's with this thread?.

Double pole, makes it easier for us to explain to DIYers how to do us out of a job....

I'm sorry but it really boils my pee tbh, nothing against you Joshua, but people spend a fortune on decor etc and leave no budget to protect their home. Billy burglar isn't going to nick your walls, just what's unguarded between them!.

I'm in Conwy.

You mean where there isn't an obvious tamper switch, I don't wish to sound condescending, but sometimes , somethings are just best left to the guys, and gals, who do what they do.

I'm only jesting, live around the corner from you mate.

Says the man from Rhyl.....lol.

From the 2015 on site guide,

As James, what goes in should come out.

Lol.

Norm I was suggesting that staples are ok for 8 core etc, just that Al Yeti said he'd tried it on cat 5, and I thought I'd heard of problems possibly matey.

Have I heard somewhere that stapling cat 5 isn't recommended due to the deformation and consequent possible problems due to crosstalk etc?.

Copy of a reply from NSI when I questioned certain lack of testing etc in a previous employ. Where an alarm company installs a fused spur, it is important that the electrical safety of the fused spur and the fixed electrical installation supplying the fused spur should have been checked. Thus, the alarm company should carry out the appropriate BS 7671 inspection and tests on the electrical installation of the building. These electrical safety checks include inspecting and testing the main earthing arrangements at the main distribution board of the building, including the main equipotential earth bonding arrangements, inspecting and testing the means for automatic disconnection of supply (fusing or circuit breakers), etc, as well as checking earth loop impedance, and polarity at the fused spur point. (Please note that I am not intending here to give a full list of the inspection and testing needed; simply to say that it will need to include these matters, among other matters). I would suggest that some of the inspections and tests on the electrical installation of the building may be best done before the fused spur is installed, in case there are electrical safety issues to resolve within the building. It is of course necessary to carry out all the necessary electrical safety checks after the fused spur has been installed. Records of these checks would need to be kept and a minor works certificate would need to be issued. Please note that electrical work in dwellings now falls within the scope of Part P of the Building Regulations under which certain work must legally be notified to the relevant local authority. For example, this would apply if the fused spur is being run from a separate way (i.e. as a new circuit) from the distribution board. Yours sincerely Tony Weeks Technical Manager

I'll swim....

As James, had mis-fired staples, pulled them out, metered the cable, very, very rare to actually cut a core.

2.5mm T+E, no fecking chance of damaging the 8core, seriously though surely we use staplers/clips, we all run the risk of damaging a cable!-put one 8 core in 16x25 trunking just to be on the safe side?.

Well that's one way of ensuring it isn't unplugged accidentally, Little transformer backed up by a 32A fuse, nice.

Why screened to rkp?.

Quad and DT to give confirmed in a bygone age.

Could be any one of them I reckon then judging by the state of the installs I've seen in the past!-any excuse not to use clips, trunking or any other method of cable containment-unless cable tieing to 230v cables counts.

Better surely than 4mm White clips knocked in every 8"-less obtrusive IMHO-and less potential for damage to!.

Do they do a wool handled one by any chance?