amateurandy Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Why??Perfectly reasonable question, as some people on here know why. It is in the correct thread and pertinent. I'll ask again. What do the regs, HSE etc say about working up trees?? Are ladders allowed or is it cherry pickers only? You obviously haven't watched "A year at Kew" on TV, or your local tree surgeons at work. Ropes, harnesses and lots of fitness, skill and training seems to be favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 im sure hse states that ladders are a means of access only, and if you want to work at heights, you need another means of access ie pickers, towers etcoh, and the trees thing is from a post a loooong time ago. a joke?? no no no no no they dont they say risk asses then carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black knight Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 At least this thread got back on track - please gents act like adults not 5 year olds This is exactly what i am trying to find out please don,t refer to documents can somebody quote from them and show what they think they mean I am following this issue closely as i spend a lot of time on ladders etc and want to be sure of my facts before i say anything to my boss paul THE BLACK KNIGHT "Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 im sure hse states that ladders are a means of access only, and if you want to work at heights, you need another means of access ie pickers, towers etcoh, and the trees thing is from a post a loooong time ago. a joke?? Got chapter and verse on what the books say. Regarding the Trees and previous post, it is not a joke, it's a perfectly serious question. And i'm not, repeat not referring to tree surgeons. I'd say arborist but we got told off for using that word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerabloke Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 any help? Eucam Security Systems 0845 4630 746 www.eucam.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 please don,t refer to documents can somebody quote from them and show what they think they meanpaul now that my dear mr knight is exactly the problem irrespective of what jb and others say its all down to interpretation - spend thousands with consultants and they still wont put there name to your risk assesment youre changing a bellbox - its on a block paved drive - the surface is stable and your on a non slip mat - all the work takes place within the stiles of the ladder - you have a hand free to climb up and down - and its of a short duration ive been up during NSI inspections - no problem ive been up at night with the h&s manager holding the torch - no problem risk assess then if you consider it safe and your not in contradiction of that particular site policy - no problem however i accept no responsibilty for anyone following my example angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 any help? Sorry, wasn't asking for it, i was saying i'd already got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black knight Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 maybe so - but its keeping us all busy p THE BLACK KNIGHT "Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerabloke Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 please stay on topic guys Eucam Security Systems 0845 4630 746 www.eucam.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quasar Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 simple answer - yes it is officialas per page 2 of [ working on ladders & steps -link for this is at bottom of post] you should only work on a ladder for a max of 30 min in one position and it it must be safely footed and or tied. Paul quoted Health and Safety Executive Safe use of ladders and stepladders An employers’ guide states that 1. theree point of contact: use a ladder(...) where you cannot maintain a handhold, other than for a brief period of time, other measures will be needed to prevent a fall or reduce the consequences of one. 2. no lone working on a ladder + footing the ladder The options for securing a ladder are as follows: ... where this is not practical, use a safe, unsecured ladder or a ladder supplemented with an effective ladder stability device ... if this is not possible, then securely wedge the ladder, eg against a wall; if none of the above can be achieved, foot the ladder. Footing is the last resort and should be avoided a bit of common sense. just a bit. a bit is still better than nothing (see other regulations, eg part P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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