Mark52 Posted April 18, 2024 Share Posted April 18, 2024 I have one zone which has 2 contacts on same zone in 2 sheds I have altered one shed so it has two doors on now so I want 3 contacts i did this and it worked for a couple of days then it kept saying the door was open but it’s not so I went back to 2 contacts for now its Orisec panel Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 18, 2024 Share Posted April 18, 2024 Modern panels work best with 1 eol device per zone However- depends on the model of contacts how they are wired ect... Mr Veritas God Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark52 Posted April 18, 2024 Author Share Posted April 18, 2024 It’s just a standard door contact Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 18, 2024 Share Posted April 18, 2024 I just wouldn't, especially on a modern panel with more options. One zone per device, so you can diagnose any problems. Your sketch seems alright assuming it's DP, time to get the multimeter out take everything apart and work out what's going on. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 18, 2024 Share Posted April 18, 2024 Is it a 6 core cable? If so just use eol contacts \resistors and put 1 on each circuit. Id only put 2 on 1 circuit if its double doors securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 18, 2024 Share Posted April 18, 2024 Also if its just std surfac door contacts how close / inline are they? Are they decent ones? maybe a picture of how they are fitted. As 6 says as you can now see fault finding is needed as all you know is its one of the 3 rather than identifying 1 contact. However if its stable with 2 and unstable with 3 id suggest its local to the 3rd. I presume as 6 its double pole and you havnt hidden resistors somewhere securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted April 18, 2024 Share Posted April 18, 2024 I assume if enough cores then not enough zones left and don't want to buy an expander ? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark52 Posted April 19, 2024 Author Share Posted April 19, 2024 Didn’t really want to get a expander for one door contact how would I do the eol contact wiring it is 6 core would anything need doing in control panel Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 19, 2024 Share Posted April 19, 2024 It's not just 1 contact tho, it's 3... EOL will be wired different at the controls end. Assuming this is three single doors, convert your 6-core into a data line for an expander adjacent to the first door, take single cables from the expander to each door. Wire it however you want not sure if Orisec supports DP from an Exp. EOL would be better but you could have issues with stuffing 1/4W resistors in tiny old style contacts if your reusing them. Most would replace the contacts. Program panel accordingly. This has the benefits of:- single fault will only take out one door, you can isolate doors individually, you know which door has an alarm or fault without taking the lot to bits, your cable to the sheds is a data line instead of DP so it's tampered in a better way. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 19, 2024 Share Posted April 19, 2024 2 hours ago, Mark52 said: Didn’t really want to get a expander for one door contact how would I do the eol contact wiring it is 6 core would anything need doing in control panel if you have an additional 2 circuits where the 6 core goes back to (im assuming panel) then just use a pair for each contact (ie red/blk contact 1, blu/yell contact2 etc) and program the panel to the correct eol values. Wiring should be in the manual but if not just say and ill dig out an image. But also bear in mind how the contacts are installed. If there is an issue there however you wire them you will have problems. Post a picture of the 3 with the door closed please securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46709-3-contacts-on-one-feed-cable/#findComment-522517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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