April 26, 20206 yr comment_499645 From what I remember the wording is along the lines of "non system operators should not be given any indication of coverage or status from the CIE or detection devices" There is a caveat that the user or engineer can activate these indications for testing but after 120s of leaving the test it returns back to off/banner message. This is mandatory at Grade 3 and recommended based on risk for Grade 2 IIRC. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-499645 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
April 26, 20206 yr comment_499648 yeah cant show coverage to level 1 users. How you do this when doing a walk test without emptying the building is another issue securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-499648 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 22, 20205 yr comment_503525 On 23/04/2020 at 23:16, al-yeti said: All grade 3 must be anti mask? What if you are adding kit to the grade 3 system that isnt grade 3? Perimeter beams for instance? Told its ok we need to right a deviation, makes no sense to me where someone can open a grd3 door contact then break an ungraded beam, ? Is this still a confirmed alarm Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-503525 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 22, 20205 yr comment_503533 1 hour ago, Alarmbloke said: What if you are adding kit to the grade 3 system that isnt grade 3? Perimeter beams for instance? Told its ok we need to right a deviation, makes no sense to me where someone can open a grd3 door contact then break an ungraded beam, ? Is this still a confirmed alarm The Grade of a system is defined by the lowest graded component so if you fit a grade 2 component the system will be G2 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-503533 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 24, 20205 yr comment_503563 As above if you use a grade 1 component on a grade 3 system the whole system becomes grade 1 securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-503563 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 24, 20205 yr comment_503565 On 22/07/2020 at 20:33, PeterJames said: The Grade of a system is defined by the lowest graded component so if you fit a grade 2 component the system will be G2 Yes i understand that, im talking kit that cant be graded, We done a job and had to fit perimeter beams around perimeter, because the beams where not graded, we where told we could keep at as grd3 but need to do a deviation explaining no other devices at a graded level where available, Also finding some breakglass detectors are xlaiming ro be g3 by there model number but are infact grade 2 etc Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-503565 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 24, 20205 yr comment_503571 IIf iisnt used for monitoring then it could be listed as auxiliary items Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-503571 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 25, 20205 yr comment_503600 There is no method to do 'variations' for intruder, there should be though. There was a lot of devices that were grade 3 dropped to grade 2 when the rear tamper rules changed securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-503600 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 25, 20205 yr comment_503603 off topic- I fitted some grade 3 fmc's contacts today, ya90 I thought they would be a ball ache, but they appear to just "work" no idea what make them g3 ? Mr Veritas God Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-503603 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 25, 20205 yr comment_503606 There all potted and only can have the magnet in one place so I suppose easier to design? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43736-grade-3/page/2/#findComment-503606 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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