tinnitus Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Hi guys, can you help settle an argument? Is it an nsi gold requirement that the engineer code be changed when an employee (engineer) leaves the company? Or is it just good practice? Also, should it be changed annually? thanks in advance. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Not that I know to, its good practice and sia does securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinnitus Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, james.wilson said: Not that I know to, its good practice and sia does Sh*t, I lost the argument then. To be fair, it’s a huge job for a medium to large company and probably impossible to complete. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Good practice but not mandatory. Inspectors may suggest it but again not mandatory. Large companies just end up with lists of codes, as your unlikely to be able to swap every site. Some companies use either POTD or some random engineer code generator from a seed like the customer number, makes it harder remember them all. More importantly stops others having a handful of codes to all your sites. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 If you follow the fb forums there are plenty of shaved chimps asking for engineer codes for this co or that.It is good practice to change the codes I dont think the inspectorates care (even though they should) I have thought long and hard about using fobs as engineer codes all progged with the same number, It is a pain if a fob is lost its also a pain if an engineer leaves and doesnt give it back, but its a lot harder for anyone to get your engineer code Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Codes are a complete waste of time nowadays imo unless it's something like cotd. @PJ your mate was asking about defaulting a hkc on FB, I guessed one of yours? Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Ideally it should be unique per site pod helps but is undone by clock resets etc securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 8 hours ago, norman said: Codes are a complete waste of time nowadays imo unless it's something like cotd. @PJ your mate was asking about defaulting a hkc on FB, I guessed one of yours? Nah he would struggle to nick any of mine, I dont have customers that about every penny I noticed though, I think its because he has realised Risco are crap Texecom have also let him down, he knows what I use and never heres me complaining. All the other shaved monkeys on FB have told him how good they are. I was tempted to say we've stopped using them since the incident with the helicopter crash but I dont think it would do me any good Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, PeterJames said: Nah he would struggle to nick any of mine, I dont have customers that about every penny I noticed though, I think its because he has realised Risco are **** Texecom have also let him down, he knows what I use and never heres me complaining. All the other shaved monkeys on FB have told him how good they are. I was tempted to say we've stopped using them since the incident with the helicopter crash but I dont think it would do me any good You lock them yes? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Lol, all he does is ask questions on there, no issue with intruder but asking about fire makes me wonder. Tell him, like most things in Brighton they can be back doored quite easily... Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43605-engineer-code-regulations/#findComment-496524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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