Weebryan Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Hi, apologies if this has been asked before. Am attempting to replace an alarm in my mums, dad died recently and she wants the security. They had a Response alarm, wired PIRs and door contacts. 6 core cable, 2 power, 2 detector and 2 anti tamper. Am replacing the control box with oswoo pg100 wired and wireless, hoping to use the concealed wiring and PIRs already in, and wireless for whatever extras she wants. Door contact circuits work just fine but having nightmares with the PIRs. Have wired in the 2 power, and the two for the zone, such that the PIR detects, leaving aside the anti tampers for now which i'll wire into a separate zone for all. I cannot make the alarm trigger though by a PIR going off, except if i interrupt the circuit. The old PIRs are NC, and have the new system set to NC. Can anyone think of anything obvious i'm missing or offer any advice? Its driving me bananas, like a caged lion keeping walking in front of the PIRs lol. Thanks in advance Edited August 16, 2019 by sixwheeledbeast Better title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Quote oswoo pg100 a what? Is this proper stuff? maybe a picture of the pir's but response is horrible diy stuff Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Remove the 2 alarm wires from each PIR circuit at the panel end, place a multimeter set to continuity across the 2 wires, make sure no one is moving near the PIR to trigger it. With the PIR powered, you should get a tone or very low resistance. Now get someone to walk in front of the PIR and the meter should show high resistance or open circuit, if it doesn't then you have a fault in the wiring or PIR. If the above is ok then you need to look at the panel. Edited August 16, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebryan Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 Thanks specialist and james wilson. Its an Owsoo pg 100, was a typo. Will give that a try, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, james.wilson said: but response is horrible diy stuff Having googled "Owsoo alarm" response does'nt look that bad.... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Unfortunately it appears to be a system with one way signalling, which can unfortunately give you lots of false alarm problems. Did you realise that the the alarm can be silenced at the touch of one button ?. This is clearly explained on Amazon for all to see, so all Billy the burglar has to do is walk in & press the button and can then walk around your property at will. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Weebryan said: Thanks specialist and james wilson. Its an Owsoo pg 100, was a typo. Will give that a try, thanks Your welcome. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Specialist said: Unfortunately... I'd assume this has come from amazon / ebay or paid for with paypal, OP its tat ask for refund Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Can't find them listed on the bay mate & Amazon don't know if they'll ever have them back in stock, it's as you said very cheap and comes from China. Doubt there will be any backup provided, another case of you really do get what you pay for. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I don't think anyone here can help you with this type of DIY tat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 As above I doubt anyone here has worked on the kit you have. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Weebryan said: Thanks specialist and james wilson. Its an Owsoo pg 100, was a typo. Will give that a try, thanks It's basically junk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 hours ago, MrHappy said: Having googled "Owsoo alarm" response does'nt look that bad.... QFA I think I would have kept the response too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PeterJames said: QFA I think I would have kept the response too Can't with that sentiment & I hate response alarms. Edited August 16, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 agreed is worse, but the OP wont be alone thinking it was a good thing to buy Lets help if we can Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, james.wilson said: agreed is worse, but the OP wont be alone thinking it was a good thing to buy Lets help if we can Can't do much unless the OP comes back with more info. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just a thought for the OP: Maybe the problem is that the existing detectors aren't compatible with the new alarm. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Specialist said: Just a thought for the OP: Maybe the problem is that the existing detectors aren't compatible with the new alarm. I think it's your fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, al-yeti said: I think it's your fault Me: I'm blaming the Chinese & the morons that imported this **** . Edited August 17, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 But there is loads of tat being imported, some of it good some of it bad.Hikvision and the likes started out this way, and some would say its the best CCTV available today. The problem with security industry is that there are no enforceable standards people are free to market tat that false alarms at a blink of an eye, or wont switch off when the correct code is inputted, or doesnt activate when there is an intruder. But people are also free to make a choice, sometimes educated choice and sometimes people do not research before they buy and go for the cheapest deal. Hopefully when people buy tat they learn from the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Agreed there's lots of tat being imported in all areas, especially anything Electronic. Personally I think the importers are lowlife, preying on the uninformed & unsuspecting public & very often knowingly selling badly made & dangerous equipment. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebryan Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 Have taken on board the advice and sent it back after much wrangling. I didnt actually buy the alarm, my dad did before he died, so was trying to put it in for my mother. Will figure out where to go from here, but the response alarm while generally perceived as tat on here was installed for 20 years and no issues, it just gave out/broke. Thanks to those who gave constructive responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Weebryan said: but the response alarm while generally perceived as tat on here was installed for 20 years and no issues, it just gave out/broke. most who post on TSI have worked in the trade, 99% of the stuff sold in the shops as "alarms" is tat, if was half decent it would be fitted to the shop... readily available hybrid alarm texecom premier readily available wired alarm texecom veritas 1 hour ago, Weebryan said: Thanks to those who gave constructive responses. not sure that's me..... but you did reply with "tat" & "refund" so I guess it must have been ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Weebryan said: Have taken on board the advice and sent it back after much wrangling. I didnt actually buy the alarm, my dad did before he died, so was trying to put it in for my mother. Will figure out where to go from here, but the response alarm while generally perceived as tat on here was installed for 20 years and no issues, it just gave out/broke. Thanks to those who gave constructive responses. Hi: Sorry it was something your dad bought before he died & he got ripped off but glad you managed to get your money back. You might want to take a look at the DIY kits sold somewhere like security warehouse ( Really good to deal with ) or alternatively your local TLC Electrical do a basic wired system at a good price. If you need any help with questions on installation or setting up, please ask and we'll do our best to help you get it sorted. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I see no mention of refund? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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