Installers have just confirmed that they are wireless ones that are installed.  My memory of a blue thing must be wrong - away on business atm

28 minutes ago, aissecur said:

David, if it was me I would be installing the Eaton / cooper M12 (4 in 1 detector) - I have a couple at home and they haven't missed a beat

I fitted a few texecom in the past and after a few years had false alarm issue...

 

It did seem endemic, Texe issue happened on quite a few properties around the same age.

 

17 minutes ago, David N said:

Installers have just confirmed that they are wireless ones that are installed.  My memory of a blue thing must be wrong - away on business atm

 

In that case, they need a rethink on the Kitchen unless the Texe wireless can be switched to Heat Only.

Edited July 25, 20196 yr by datadiffusion

10 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

 

It did seem endemic, Texe issue happened on quite a few properties around the same age.

 

 

In that case, they need a rethink on the Kitchen unless the Texe wireless can be switched to Heat Only.

 Texecom do a wireless heat & smoke - Model number OHW -  GBN-0001   - I bet that what is installed

 

To fit anything other than a heat in a kitchen is asking for trouble

 

If it is located anywhere near the kettle or steam when the dishwasher is opened I would suggest it is relocated as a minimum

 

Edited July 25, 20196 yr by aissecur

On 24/07/2019 at 12:41, David N said:

This is what has confused me.  The premier elite are meant to be smart and so just heat or just smoke shouldn’t trigger them as I understand it.  But it doesn’t seem to work that way.  

 

We reused the smoke alarms from pre-building works but don’t think that they have been updated by Texecom in the meanwhile. 

Installer told us that the Texecom system isn’t very good....5+ or so years after they recommended and installed it.  

7years working

5 years ago recommended

Not very good for an orangery more like 

Few posts later than this the blag has started 

 

Question are you going to change the smokes yourself , or instruct your alarm installer to do it ? 

The kitchen one is sort of in the middle of the dishwasher - steam oven / oven - hob / teppanyaki triangle.  The utility one is in a room with the dishwasher and dryer, just outside the door to the garage.  

 

Thing is though that they go off when the house is empty. 

1 minute ago, al-yeti said:

7years working

5 years ago recommended

Not very good for an orangery more like 

Few posts later than this the blag has started 

 

Question are you going to change the smokes yourself , or instruct your alarm installer to do it ? 

Get the installers too but tell them what to do.  And probably look for a new installer / service co. 

If they are the wireless ones there is only a multisensor option and I wouldn't call them suitable for a kitchen.

17 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

If they are the wireless ones there is only a multisensor option and I wouldn't call them suitable for a kitchen.

I agree

 

Strange that they operate when the house is unoccupied (I assume the dish washer has not been left on a cycle or anything)

Does the kitchen suffer from excessive temperatures (Ie roof poorly insulated?)

Edited July 26, 20196 yr by aissecur

45 minutes ago, aissecur said:

I agree

 

Strange that they operate when the house is unoccupied (I assume the dish washer has not been left on a cycle or anything)

Does the kitchen suffer from excessive temperatures (Ie roof poorly insulated?)

It’s a large Orangery with a lot of glass and three skylights - and the back taken off the house in between so it does heat up.  It’s 32 degrees C in there right now.  Warmer than Greece, which is where I am this week...

 

5 minutes ago, David N said:

 It’s 32 degrees C in there right now

 

So probably 40 at the apex then, assuming you're reading this from a home automation sensor at head height or similar?

 

I imagine both the wired and wireless sensors take temperature into account, e.g. perhaps would be classed as interference/dust/other at 25 degrees is treated as fire at 40 degrees and rising?

 

57 minutes ago, aissecur said:

Strange that they operate when the house is unoccupied (I assume the dish washer has not been left on a cycle or anything)

 

Although if you think about it, it will be hotter if all the doors and windows are shut all day and night though?

 

58 minutes ago, aissecur said:

Does the kitchen suffer from excessive temperatures (Ie roof poorly insulated?)

 

I guess it won't matter if there is enough glass. Our conservatory at our old house was terrible for solar gain, in the end it was actually unusable virtually

until we had the local tinting people come over. They usually do chavvy cars but did use the proper 3M stuff and it made the room usable.

 

In the current  house we went for solar control glass and I'd have to say even yesterday it was surprising how comfortable it was in there.

3 hours ago, David N said:

It’s a large Orangery with a lot of glass and three skylights - and the back taken off the house in between so it does heat up.  It’s 32 degrees C in there right now.  Warmer than Greece, which is where I am this week...

 

Is the company specialising in intruder alarms or they jack of all trades ?

 

Get a fire company in for a quote and get wallet out