help Can anyone help me identify my system?

[MattS]

Hi.  First time posting and I have two questions I would like to ask

 

First off, I need to replace a PIR in our home and would like to carry out the replacement myself.  The problem is that I don't know exactly what alarm system I have (its at least 20yrs old) and would appreciate any help to identify it.  I believe its a 800L as the circuit board layout looks exactly the same.  I've attached a picture of my current board and would really appreciate it if someone could confirm if I'm correct.   What I'm also not sure about is the function of the transformer in the bottom left and the switch below it.  If anyone could give me a clue, again it would be appreciated.

 

The second part is that I would really like to re-program the unit as the alarm exit/entry beep isnt loud enough and it sounds for too long when I exit.  I've tested the engineering code given in the manual above, but it doesnt work.  Would I be correct in thinking that I then need to short the pins at the top of the board identified by the "Memory Default. Link 2"  text to reset it?  If I do this, I'm assuming I would need to re-program the whole system from scratch.  Is this very difficult or hard to follow?  I'm not an alarm guy, but I am technical in nature so don't have an issue approaching the problem.

 

TIA
Matt

 

PS I'm also considering upgrading the panel to something more modern which would be able to notify me of any alarms via the internet or mobile network.  Any suggestions that I could drop in?

Edited December 26, 2017 by sixwheeledbeast

[al-yeti]

38 minutes ago, MattS said:

Hi.  First time posting and I have two questions I would like to ask

 

First off, I need to replace a PIR in our home and would like to carry out the replacement myself.  The problem is that I don't know exactly what alarm system I have (its at least 20yrs old) and would appreciate any help to identify it.  I believe its a as the circuit board layout looks exactly the same.  I've attached a picture of my current board and would really appreciate it if someone could confirm if I'm correct.   What I'm also not sure about is the function of the transformer in the bottom left and the switch below it.  If anyone could give me a clue, again it would be appreciated.

 

The second part is that I would really like to re-program the unit as the alarm exit/entry beep isnt loud enough and it sounds for too long when I exit.  I've tested the engineering code given in the manual above, but it doesnt work.  Would I be correct in thinking that I then need to short the pins at the top of the board identified by the "Memory Default. Link 2"  text to reset it?  If I do this, I'm assuming I would need to re-program the whole system from scratch.  Is this very difficult or hard to follow?  I'm not an alarm guy, but I am technical in nature so don't have an issue approaching the problem.

 

TIA
Matt

 

PS I'm also considering upgrading the panel to something more modern which would be able to notify me of any alarms via the internet or mobile network.  Any suggestions that I could drop in?

Forget this alarm 

 

Perhaps a pyronix enforcer will work for you with remote keypad 

 

What you mean your technical in nature? 

 

Transformer provides power from the mains supply, and the switch you mean with a spring on it? Is a case tamper switch 

[al-yeti]

 

Actually you mean something else , that's not a switch below it , that something standard in many devices , it's connected to the transformer , and has a fuse on it

[PeterJames]

A picture of the keypad and and control panel would have been more useful than a picture of the PCB that could be pretty much any old panel although it says C& K on the PCB it still doesnt help identify which one 

[sixwheeledbeast]

38 minutes ago, MattS said:

First off, I need to replace a PIR in our home and would like to carry out the replacement myself.  The problem is that I don't know exactly what alarm system I have (its at least 20yrs old) and would appreciate any help to identify it.

Not knowing the model of the alarm shouldnt be a problem if just replacing a PIR.

 

38 minutes ago, MattS said:

First off, I need to replace a PIR in our home and would like to carry out the replacement myself.  The problem is that I don't know exactly what alarm system I have (its at least 20yrs old) and would appreciate any help to identify it.  I believe its a 800L as the circuit board layout looks exactly the same.

Yes

 

38 minutes ago, MattS said:

 What I'm also not sure about is the function of the transformer in the bottom left and the switch below it.  If anyone could give me a clue, again it would be appreciated.

The transformer powers the control panel. There is no switch, it's a fuse that has mains voltages.

 

38 minutes ago, MattS said:

The second part is that I would really like to re-program the unit as the alarm exit/entry beep isnt loud enough and it sounds for too long when I exit.  I've tested the engineering code given in the manual above, but it doesnt work. 

I wouldn't expect it to be the default code if programmed by an installer.

 

38 minutes ago, MattS said:

 Would I be correct in thinking that I then need to short the pins at the top of the board identified by the "Memory Default. Link 2"  text to reset it?  If I do this, I'm assuming I would need to re-program the whole system from scratch.  Is this very difficult or hard to follow?

Defaulting the panel will require you to program everything from scratch. Easy if you know how, unlikely to have a working system if you don't know what you are doing.

 

38 minutes ago, MattS said:

 I'm also considering upgrading the panel to something more modern which would be able to notify me of any alarms via the internet or mobile network.  Any suggestions that I could drop in?

If you need notifications from your alarm I would suggest you get a company to fit a monitored system. Anything else provides a false sense of security.

Edited December 26, 2017 by sixwheeledbeast

[PeterJames]

Please dont post engineering manuals in the public area if you are unsure of the rules please take a look at the forum main page 

[MattS]

1 hour ago, PeterJames said:

A picture of the keypad and and control panel would have been more useful than a picture of the PCB that could be pretty much any old panel although it says C& K on the PCB it still doesnt help identify which one 

Here's a picture of the keypad.  There is no control panel (otherwise I would have posted one!)

 

@sixwheeledbeast - thanks for the response.  Do you know of any good guides for programming home alarm systems?  I've downloaded the manual from Honeywell but I wouldn't say its the simplest to follow.

 

Cheers.

Edited December 26, 2017 by MattS
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[MattS]

1 hour ago, PeterJames said:

Please dont post engineering manuals in the public area if you are unsure of the rules please take a look at the forum main page 

 

I've checked the forum root (http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/) as well as this subforum root and cant find any sticky's in relation to posting manuals.  Can you let me know where on the forum main page I should be looking at in relation to the rules about posting manuals.

TIA

[magpye]

MattS, your first picture is the control panel, what did you think it was?

 

[MattS]

Just now, magpye said:

MattS, your first picture is the control panel, what did you think it was?

 

The PCB, as indicated my Peter.