charlie6 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 ",,,,If you were the owner of a national company say and your code was being dished around publicly on a Facebook group, what would your response be??.." What could your response be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Response " we should have secured it better" ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I should have been more precise, perhaps I should have said " Would you try to force facebook to take your codes off their site". but on reflection perhaps I was just being fecetious (is that how you spell it) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 You've more chance of plaiting piss. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Exactly Norman. To me Facebook is more dangerous than standing armies. It tells us when people are going on holidays, picking the kids up from school, are down the pub..the list goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acl-services Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 should be careful giving them out as when employed by a company you sign a contract that would include some form of non disclosure. However any company that no longer maintains a system should be forced to default the engineers code or supply it to the new maintainer in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secureiam Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 interesting, I had a new customer a few weeks back that wanted a few things putting right on his Elite 24 after the installer didn't complete some of the programing. That customer got the engineers code off the installer (electrician) who initially refused, so he started going through the process of legal action, the engineer then gave him the engineers code. I explained that the engineers code we have for that system would not be given out but would be defaulted by us remotely upon request for free but we would not be responsible for the system at that point, we will not give the end user the engineers code to maintain the integrity of the system. He then asked if we were no longer trading what would the position be, advised any engineer that knows that system could default the codes if required. Obviously if our code for that system has been removed that system we are no longer responsible. Have to say about 5-10% of the systems I come across tend to be locked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergibbons Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 should be careful giving them out as when employed by a company you sign a contract that would include some form of non disclosure. However any company that no longer maintains a system should be forced to default the engineers code or supply it to the new maintainer in my opinion. Problem with that is that there is not traceability or accountability on a 4 digit code. Quote I have a blog, some of which is about alarm security and reverse engineering:http://cybergibbons.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 "...However any company that no longer maintains a system should be forced to default the engineers code or supply it to the new maintainer in my opinion.." Default it yes, but not supply your own code to the new maintenance company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 default yes but not by doing a free visit. However if the panel was delivered to the old installer they could default the code. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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