datadiffusion Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Nothing is fail safe, but professional alarm signalling solutions are engineered to make common points of failure relatively easy to overcome, at relatively low cost, and without intervention. So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Nothing is fail safe, but professional alarm signalling solutions are engineered to make common points of failure relatively easy to overcome, at relatively low cost, and without intervention. Signalling, yes, acting on that signalling isn't quite as technologically advanced though. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It is when automated. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It is when automated. The next bit can't possibly be, well it could be but I've yet to see a robot turning up at a premises. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Dick if it was the best way then insurance cos and the police would prefer them. I've seen sites where there is 50v on the Tel line, dial tone etc but can't be used securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hang on we are comparing two different things here. Signalling and response to signalling are completely different. A dialler can be equally susceptible to response issues as a monitored path. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Dick if it was the best way then insurance cos and the police would prefer them. I've seen sites where there is 50v on the Tel line, dial tone etc but can't be used I'm certainly not saying a GSM dialler is the best way, James, far from it. I'm merely playing devils' advocate by saying no system is without potential flaws. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hang on we are comparing two different things here. Signalling and response to signalling are completely different. A dialler can be equally susceptible to response issues as a monitored path. As like many threads, SWB, they can go off on a tangent and could be material to start several other threads.Exactly, the response element will always be the weak link regardless of the signalling. . Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I can see Dick's point regarding response. You can have the finest gprs, dialler, arc etc. in the world. If the response is negative the entire project is worthless (Recent Hatton Gardens Heist ??). Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Talking of the Hatton Garden heist, how was that concrete allowed in the first place without reinforcements when it was 'guarding' extreme valuables? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/38621-accenta-gen-4-and-pyronix-gsmv2/page/5/#findComment-424920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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