Therealme Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Hi all, I am new here and found you all when looking for some information, hopefully someone here can help me I currently have a Honeywell Accenta Gen 4 alarm with a Informa speech dialler connected, as I no longer have access to a fixed telephone line I was looking to replace my dialler with a Pyronix speech dialler GSM V2, can anyone tell me if it would be a direct replacement and I just need to disconnect existing wiring and reconnect to this dialler please? I assume the connections are as follows Informer V2GSM 12V ------ +12V 0V ------- 0V IP1 ------- IN1 (IP1 is connected to INT on my main panel) IP2 ------- IN2 (IP2 is connected to PA on my main panel) IP3 ------- IN3 (IP3 should be connected to FIRE on my main panel - CURRENTLY NOT USED) INH ------ IN6/S (INH is connected to set on my main panel) T A -------- TAM 1 M -------- TAM 2 P I have attached a photo showing the connections on my currently fitted Informa and a PDF showing the relevant pages from the panel connectionsGen4_Dialler connect.pdf. Thanks in advance Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Hi, Subject to alternative input from the site professionals I can see no reason why you could not use the Pyronix. However, there are quite a few others available which may be more suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealme Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Thank you for the reply can you recommend anything? Always open to suggestions if there is something better for les cash Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 How about https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/cqr-fwgd04-communicator-gsm-p-2135.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Glad we've got a reply from the experts. My 2015 list consists of Risco, Texecom, Pyronix and Visonic only. Some of these modules are for use with their particular control panels and may or may not be compatible with others. The GSM350 PG2 for example is designed as an internal module for the Powermaster range.. and so on. I cannot therefore make a valid suggestion on all external modules at this time.. but in my opinion anything pyronix gets my vote. Personally I would not go for the cheapest unless a particular model is recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Id avoid pyronix but that's my personal view. When in charge of product used I refuse to use a pyronix product cos as an engineer I had to remove so many due to issues Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbz Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 We use Pyroñix as one of our main panels and in all honesty I find they give far less problems then galaxies do. The amount of high res and low res issues galaxies cause whereas Pyroñix rarely causes issues with detector faults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 yep they just stop working. Another member here has huge issues with it just failing and not giving an early warning its about to Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbz Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Granted there detectors ain't the best but think there panels work as they should. Bar the odd lightening strike can't recall last panel that just went faulty that I've had to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 How about https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/cqr-fwgd04-communicator-gsm-p-2135.html That only has 2 outputs though. Is it expandable? The V2, on the other hand, appears more feature rich if the SW write up is anything to go on. More importantly the V2 GSM has 6 on-board programmable inputs (Expandable to 14) and 4 on-board programmable outputs (Expandable to 52). As an end user I'm using 13 outputs and never had an issue. As for its compatibility with an Accenta panel, I'll pass that one on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealme Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 I have been advised that apparently it's a straight swap, the terminals are marked up differently but have had it explained to me in detail how to connect it to my Accenta panel The unit mentioned above seems very basic and might not be enough for what I 'might' need in the future, is it expandable, has anyone used/ fitted one? Thanks everyone for all your advise so far, I really appreciate it. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I will be suprised if you connect many other outputs, maybe one at the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I will be suprised if you connect many other outputs, maybe one at the most Surprised? So what do you envisage the outputs being used for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I think you should read the original question and then look at general dig and what they fit, many diallera never use there outputs , simply used for notification So will be suprised if they ever get used by most diy fits , just an opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 if you want flexibility like that you dont want an accenta and a text dialler, you want a big panel and a gsm unit. ie the siemens spc panel. plus you can use apps on your phone to control, view status etc. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I think you should read the original question and then look at general dig and what they fit, many diallera never use there outputs , simply used for notification So will be suprised if they ever get used by most diy fits , just an opinion I read it thanks and the OP also mentions in post 11 about its expansion possibilities in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 if you want flexibility like that you dont want an accenta and a text dialler, you want a big panel and a gsm unit. ie the siemens spc panel. plus you can use apps on your phone to control, view status etc. Albeit it isn't an Accenta panel but I regularly use my many outputs via either text or phone call rather than the need for using third party apps which I like to steer away from where security is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 what are you controlling. i prefer an app rather than sending obscure text message strings. ie my hkc panel runs my heating and external lighting via its app. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 what are you controlling. i prefer an app rather than sending obscure text message strings. ie my hkc panel runs my heating and external lighting via its app. Gates, garages, lights-internal/external, heating, siren, curtains, alarm.I prefer sending obscure text message strings rather than using an app being controlled by any number of unknowns, servers and potentially risky updates to name 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Dear me, arguments again ! whatever happened to a good old fashioned dialler ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Abbz, you've lost me a bit.. no ! a lot..Help me out here. "... Pyronix rarely causes issues with detector faults ..." Are you referring to the panel 'causing issues with detector faults' or are you referring to pyronix detectors in general.. I've never known a panel to cause issues with a detector.. but as usual (open to comment). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Dear me, arguments again ! whatever happened to a good old fashioned dialler ? Charlie, I fail to see any argument but statements without much or any thought like 'al yeti's' should be clarified. James likes his apps, I don't. I like my texts/calls and James doesn't. That doesn't constitute an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbz Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Things like high res faults you commonly get on galaxy panels for no reason. Find more stable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Fair comment Dick, I take it all back. Thanks for the info Abbz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 the dialler is a seperate debate p/ss poor alarm delivery method but cheap. go with semaphore thats cheaper Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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