The house I live in is the result of captain DIY and when I touched an electric socket even my 23st had no problem travelling through the air as the live was touching the metal back box that wasn't earthed.

I am not taking anything anyway from your comments in the other thread.

I was at a new build yesterday, where non of electrics had PE links to the patresses.

Safe to assume the 150 odd houses are the same?

Huge issue if your not planning on taking a socket apart?

Its decorating etc... when it becomes an issue, sockets hanging off...

 

I can't quite remember where it was but I had to add a load of links the other day, no doubt leaving every other

socket in the house without one as-fitted.

That's why I took it off. Decorating. Hadn't been an issue until then although reasonable chance a toddler could crawl round and touch the live screw as could my puddy cat.

Those pin 'safety' devices boil my pizz.

 

Local cafe has one - snapped off - in a socket, exposing the L + N shutters (

 

Without the 'safety' device it would have been 1000x safer.

Its not a requirement to earth the back box if you have a back box with a fixed lug.

 

 

Other side note

 

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Edited April 11, 201412 yr by Simlec

What's a fixed lug?

Presumably something that stops the live metal back box causing a problem. Mr Spark e can check the whole house over as if that socket is dodgy I'm sure there are other nasties to find.

Its the lug that is stamped out and fixed in the box

Where norm is from lugs are something completly different

yorkshire-slang-glossary.pdf

On your metal back box, the two screw holes one is normally fixed and the other moves so you can level your accessory front (socket).

But not always and you can have insulated ones and two that are lose.

Insulated lugs? Wow not seen them since rewiring 1950s flats with the old 'lets save 2p worth of copper' 2 core lighting circuits