timmo66 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Guys, I have been fitting fire alarms for quite a number of years now, but for some reason I have never really wanted to dig into anything deeper. I turn up with my drawing, fit, test, job done. Now I imagine, if done properly, there is a lot of design and cost work to be done before I get there. For example, system type, cable calculations, loop calculations, sounder circuit volt drop etc etc. Without giving away top secret information, you guys who are doing the designing for your companies, do you mind giving me a sneak peak into your world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Honeywell can send you a free "little black book" There's a link on their homepage - notifyer site It's all about risk and getting the right things in the right place. http://www.apollo-fire.co.uk/media/57203/bs-guide-final-locked.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo66 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Honeywell can send you a free "little black book" There's a link on their homepage - notifyer site It's all about risk and getting the right things in the right place. http://www.apollo-fire.co.uk/media/57203/bs-guide-final-locked.pdf Thats brilliant, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I've just ordered one too, ta! Although looks like us installer scum are't welcome, choice was 'are you a fire installler / sparks / property maint / other...'! So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 this ones better.. http://fireclass.co.uk/en/emea/AuthorizedDocuments/Service/Technical%20Documentation/FireClass%20Consultants%20Guide.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I never choose or recommended a category i get the client to put that in writing to us securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 this ones better.. http://fireclass.co.uk/en/emea/AuthorizedDocuments/Service/Technical%20Documentation/FireClass%20Consultants%20Guide.pdf nice link ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21ninja Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Will have a look to. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotmod Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 If you're really interested in the meat and bones the FIA do courses on it which either you or your company can pay to be on. Very helpful along with the stuff manufacturers put out. Hochiki do a nice little guide for 5266 and 5839. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo66 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 All this is great for regulations. What to put where etc.. but what about when you are planning the installation? This cant be done by the engineer on the first day of the job because you would have to have costed for cable runs etc. For the larger sites, I assume you calculate loop lengths and loads, sounder volt drop etc etc? If you're really interested in the meat and bones the FIA do courses on it which either you or your company can pay to be on. Very helpful along with the stuff manufacturers put out. Hochiki do a nice little guide for 5266 and 5839. I have spoke to my boss about getting on a course. I mentioned FIA, especially after speaking to one of their guys at IFSEC. Their guy also mentioned at the time that soon they were hoping to be able to offer qualifications, not just a training course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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